ENEB Master Thread

[Cofffeee]

Dont think u can play it anyway. Its what its. Just try to find evaluation agency with the best outcome possible.

[rachel83az]

Just try to find evaluation agency with the best outcome possible.

I think that's what people are trying to do here.

[bjcheung77]

Can anyone try to get it notarized with the Apostille de la haye-ed version of the Isabel I certificate to be evaluated? That might carry some more weight

For European countries and other countries that actually follow through with the process, this would be a viable option to have, it may actually "carry some more weight". An example would be NARIC in the UK recognizing this degree as an accredited Bachelors (advanced Bachelors - final year). However, for American or Australians, Canadians, etc, it may come in as a recognized non-accredited program, anywhere from an accredited post graduate diploma to non-accredited masters degree. I don't think for these having that extra "ump" would make too much of a difference.

[cacoleman1983]

Can anyone try to get it notarized with the Apostille de la haye-ed version of the Isabel I certificate to be evaluated? That might carry some more weight

For European countries and other countries that actually follow through with the process, this would be a viable option to have, it may actually "carry some more weight".  An example would be NARIC in the UK recognizing this degree as an accredited Bachelors (advanced Bachelors - final year). However, for American or Australians, Canadians, etc, it may come in as a recognized non-accredited program, anywhere from an accredited post graduate diploma to non-accredited masters degree.  I don't think for these having that extra "ump" would make too much of a difference.

When it comes down to it,  all of the evaluations we have so far are accurate to some degree.   This masters from ENEB is unaccredited on its own but still legitimate.   As a Master Propio degree in Spain, it serves an identical purpose with the same limitations of not being able to use it to enter a PhD, academic work, or government work.   At the same time,  it can work for anything else outside of that scope to advance your career.

The Universidad Isabel I certification allows for these credits despite how the degree is evaluated to be used towards graduate or undergraduate coursework.   In theory, one may be able to transfer these credits to a Bachelors, Masters, or Post-graduate coursework that can count towards a doctorate.     Getting the degree evaluated on its own will not produce any sufficient results but getting the credits evaluated will be more effective in my opinion.

[eLearner]

Can anyone try to get it notarized with the Apostille de la haye-ed version of the Isabel I certificate to be evaluated? That might carry some more weight

For European countries and other countries that actually follow through with the process, this would be a viable option to have, it may actually "carry some more weight".  An example would be NARIC in the UK recognizing this degree as an accredited Bachelors (advanced Bachelors - final year). However, for American or Australians, Canadians, etc, it may come in as a recognized non-accredited program, anywhere from an accredited post graduate diploma to non-accredited masters degree.  I don't think for these having that extra "ump" would make too much of a difference.

When it comes down to it,  all of the evaluations we have so far are accurate to some degree.   This masters from ENEB is unaccredited on its own but still legitimate.   As a Master Propio degree in Spain, it serves an identical purpose with the same limitations of not being able to use it to enter a PhD, academic work, or government work.   At the same time,  it can work for anything else outside of that scope to advance your career.

The Universidad Isabel I certification allows for these credits despite how the degree is evaluated to be used towards graduate or undergraduate coursework.   In theory, one may be able to transfer these credits to a Bachelors, Masters, or Post-graduate coursework that can count towards a doctorate.     Getting the degree evaluated on its own will not produce any sufficient results but getting the credits evaluated will be more effective in my opinion.

If we take only the one evaluation of it being unaccredited from WES and not the evaluation from ECE that evaluated it as accredited:

There will almost certainly be some difficulties entering government work with an unaccredited degree somewhere outside of Spain. However, lots of unaccredited degree holders work in government in the United States.

My take is, if the school that issues a diploma to you is accredited, it has the accredited school's seal on it, and the signature of a top official from that accredited school, your degree is accredited. No difference from taking a degree program from Coursera and being issued a degree from an accredited school with all the same checkmarks being cleared. I believe this is why ECE deemed the ENEB-Isabel degree as accredited, so I will deem it that way also despite WES' opinion.

[cacoleman1983]

Can anyone try to get it notarized with the Apostille de la haye-ed version of the Isabel I certificate to be evaluated? That might carry some more weight

For European countries and other countries that actually follow through with the process, this would be a viable option to have, it may actually "carry some more weight".  An example would be NARIC in the UK recognizing this degree as an accredited Bachelors (advanced Bachelors - final year). However, for American or Australians, Canadians, etc, it may come in as a recognized non-accredited program, anywhere from an accredited post graduate diploma to non-accredited masters degree.  I don't think for these having that extra "ump" would make too much of a difference.

When it comes down to it,  all of the evaluations we have so far are accurate to some degree.   This masters from ENEB is unaccredited on its own but still legitimate.   As a Master Propio degree in Spain, it serves an identical purpose with the same limitations of not being able to use it to enter a PhD, academic work, or government work.   At the same time,  it can work for anything else outside of that scope to advance your career.

The Universidad Isabel I certification allows for these credits despite how the degree is evaluated to be used towards graduate or undergraduate coursework.   In theory, one may be able to transfer these credits to a Bachelors, Masters, or Post-graduate coursework that can count towards a doctorate.     Getting the degree evaluated on its own will not produce any sufficient results but getting the credits evaluated will be more effective in my opinion.

If we take only the one evaluation of it being unaccredited from WES and not the evaluation from ECE that evaluated it as accredited:

There will almost certainly be some difficulties entering government work with an unaccredited degree somewhere outside of Spain. However, lots of unaccredited degree holders work in government in the United States.

My take is, if the school that issues a diploma to you is accredited, it has the accredited school's seal on it, and the signature of a top official from that accredited school, your degree is accredited. No difference from taking a degree program from Coursera and being issued a degree from an accredited school with all the same checkmarks being cleared. I believe this is why ECE deemed the ENEB-Isabel degree as accredited, so I will deem it that way also despite WES' opinion.

Well that makes sense.  In theory, some evaluators may give it the equivalency of an accredited Masters degree.    I think I mentioned earlier that ECE gave the accredited Bachelor's evaluation because they likely did not want to honor the Spanish Masters Propio as an accredited Masters.  The person who received that evaluation only sent the diploma with no transcript.  I'm curious to what would have happened if he sent the transcript and diploma from ENEB along with the Isabel I diploma.

[Cofffeee]

The person sent both check page 36

[cacoleman1983]

The person sent both check page 36

Oh I see.... but he only got the diploma itself evaluated.

[eLearner]

Well that makes sense.  In theory, some evaluators may give it the equivalency of an accredited Masters degree.    I think I mentioned earlier that ECE gave the accredited Bachelor's evaluation because they likely did not want to honor the Spanish Masters Propio as an accredited Masters.  The person who received that evaluation only sent the diploma with no transcript.  I'm curious to what would have happened if he sent the transcript and diploma from ENEB along with the Isabel I diploma.

I have to believe having the diploma come from a directly ANECA accredited school helped the matter. I can't see the ENEB diploma alone having the same effect. Sending both, I don't know, I wouldn't do that myself only because the Isabel diploma is coming from an institutionally accredited school and should accomplish the goal on its own, but it would be interesting to hear the outcome of that.

[Dumber]

WES:
Total non-accredited post-secondary semester credits: 36 GPA:4
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WES evaluated all courses in my degree. ENEB does not send anything documents from Isabel University. I asked them to do that, but I guess that couldn't be done. I never approached Isabel. I am not sure if there is a way to send transcripts directly from Isabel to WES - but that will be ideal. It should be up to ENEB to make that happened. At the moment, the arrangement between Isabel and ENEB is vague and a bit too superficial.