ENEB New Master Thread

[bjcheung77]

Yes, probably, ECE might evaluate it as an undergraduate bachelors degree, but may come in as RA equivalent. Hmm...

[cacoleman1983]

IEE did a double penalty for CLEA. It is a Mexican propio validating a continuing education program's Spanish propio. They didn't give it a Masters equivalent because it is a Master Titulo Propio that lists the 1600 hour equivalent (64 ECTS / 1 Year) from Spain. Then, since CLEA is from Mexico and the stated program was not listed in RUCT, it does not have RVOE which means it is an unaccredited program.

This evaluation shows that IEE evaluates Mexican propios and Spanish propios slighty different. Mexican propios are unaccredited programs from accredited institutions while Spanish propios are graduate certificates. All things considered, this is still a pretty good evaluation for continuing education with graduate hours that can count somewhere.

[lincolnlawyer]

IEE did a double penalty for CLEA.   It is a Mexican propio validating a continuing education program's Spanish propio.  They didn't give it a Masters equivalent because it is a Master Titulo Propio that lists the 1600 hour equivalent (64 ECTS / 1 Year) from Spain.   Then, since CLEA is from Mexico and the stated program was not listed in RUCT, it does not have RVOE which means it is an unaccredited program.  

This evaluation shows that IEE evaluates Mexican propios and Spanish propios slighty different. Mexican propios are unaccredited programs from accredited institutions while Spanish propios are graduate certificates. All things considered, this is still a pretty good evaluation for continuing education with graduate hours that can count somewhere.

I've been wondering about this for quite a long time. Some evaluation agencies seem to suggest that a graduate certificate in the US is issued as a continuing education program, and hence is not subject to accreditation. Is that accurate?

I had some credits that spilled over from my master's and I ended up getting a graduate certificate for them. I've been told by the awarding university (a state university) and a few institutions in the US and UK that the credits on my graduate certificate can count as formal credits for credit transfer. Doesn't that mean the intensity of the coursework is identical to a degree program? If so, wouldn't the categorization of "continuing education" diminish the validity of those credits?

[cacoleman1983]

IEE did a double penalty for CLEA.   It is a Mexican propio validating a continuing education program's Spanish propio.  They didn't give it a Masters equivalent because it is a Master Titulo Propio that lists the 1600 hour equivalent (64 ECTS / 1 Year) from Spain.   Then, since CLEA is from Mexico and the stated program was not listed in RUCT, it does not have RVOE which means it is an unaccredited program.

I've been wondering about this for quite a long time. Some evaluation agencies seem to suggest that a graduate certificate in the US is issued as a continuing education program, and hence is not subject to accreditation. Is that accurate?

I had some credits that spilled over from my master's and I ended up getting a graduate certificate for them. I've been told by the awarding university (a state university) and a few institutions in the US and UK that the credits on my graduate certificate can count as formal credits for credit transfer. Doesn't that mean the intensity of the coursework is identical to a degree program? If so, wouldn't the categorization of "continuing education" diminish the validity of those credits?

A graduate certificate can mean several things depending on the context and country.   Here in the US,  it is a short program for professional level graduate courses that can potentially transfer to Master’s degrees.   In other countries,  it can be considered undergraduate level, usually the final year (honors year) of a Bachelors degree.  

A certificate of completion for graduate courses can be a graduate certificate but not necessarily required to be official.  This is why some evaluators give no degree equivalency but will acknowledge the credits as official graduate credit.   I don’t think labeling these as continuing education diminishes the value of the certificates because regardless of how they are viewed,  it is continuing education rather they are given academic credit or not.  The level of difficulty of these courses are determined by the institution and professors.   You may do close to zero work for courses and still get credit while other programs could be rigorous with no academic credit awarded.

[huiwh1998]

Until now, there is still no "top-up" program for UI1/ENEB grads evaluated by IEE as a graduate certificate for a master's. Either they cost too much, or it takes too much time...