ENEB New Master Thread

[Kal Di]

Validential was giving the ENEB-Isabel degrees US RA Master's equivalent. I personally know a person who got it. That said, if they bumped it down to Bachelor's and have now stopped recognizing it as accredited altogether, I can't help but think the ridiculous test-out direction ENEB took is a driver of the change. ENEB had a good and legitimate program going, got greedy, and blew it, smh.

I agree!

Since it is not clear on the transcript of which people did the essay option versus exam-only option, they decided to stop recognizing ENEB as accredited. Some people who completed the exam option still got an U.S. degree equivalent evaluation due to Validential's ignorance of the new exam-only option. Although, once they learned about it, they made a decision based on the new information.

I am glad that I did the ENEB program before they introduced the exam-only option., and I am also glad that I got my Validential evaluations in 2023. Everyone who got their U.S. master's degree equivalent evaluation before this month can continue to leverage it for visa, education, and employment opportunities. Remember, their policy states their evaluations do not expire!

[MedicOne]

Validential is only useful when you're applying for VUL. Otherwise, it's pretty useless. Also, it is a pain in the ass contacting with VUL. They'll definitely "ghost" you for some reason. It is so hard to communicate with them. So your best bet is Ok State University DHA program, with a higher ranking, accepts 50% transfer, a "real" DHA, not a VUL fake DHA.

Did you evaluate with IEE as a Grad Cert and transfer the credits to the Walden MBA, BJ? How many credits do they take? Or did you do the FCE thing....?

No, I didn't bother with any extra costs for evaluations or transfers.  I didn't get the Apostille, Agile option for exams, physical diplomas, or anything from them.  I like to take the classes just for reference and for retaining info, even if it is a bit repetitive as it all deals with business and not really the subject matter that I was hoping for.   Walden takes up to 50% if you have grad credits for transfer, I didn't transfer anything to them.

What's the best easy to leverage this into a DHA program? It's this still possible?

[huiwh1998]

Validential is only useful when you're applying for VUL. Otherwise, it's pretty useless. Also, it is a pain in the ass contacting with VUL. They'll definitely "ghost" you for some reason. It is so hard to communicate with them. So your best bet is Ok State University DHA program, with a higher ranking, accepts 50% transfer, a "real" DHA, not a VUL fake DHA.

Did you evaluate with IEE as a Grad Cert and transfer the credits to the Walden MBA, BJ? How many credits do they take? Or did you do the FCE thing....?

No, I didn't bother with any extra costs for evaluations or transfers.  I didn't get the Apostille, Agile option for exams, physical diplomas, or anything from them.  I like to take the classes just for reference and for retaining info, even if it is a bit repetitive as it all deals with business and not really the subject matter that I was hoping for.   Walden takes up to 50% if you have grad credits for transfer, I didn't transfer anything to them.

What's the best easy to leverage this into a DHA program? It's this still possible?

I suppose you can still use graduate credits evaluated by IEE with an ENEB/UI1 diploma, plus an easy master's program like UMPI/Walden for matriculation, because on the VUL DHA website it states, "An externship of up to 24 credit hours may be required for students to fulfill this requirement." So, graduate credits will most likely fulfill the requirements of "An externship of up to 24 credits". In theory, it may work, but in reality...who knows...

Btw VUL is quite lenient on its policies, so it might be worth a try...

[bjcheung77]

Most of the ENEB grads who took two or more programs were able to get into VUL DHA because of the favorable Validential evaluation. For those not going the ENEB route, you can do the UMPI MAOL and HAU MBA combo as an example. I'd rather have two degrees instead of taking the classes just for those extra 24 credits at the Masters level. You may want to email VUL if they would accept you without the Validential evaluation (like Edgewood College did recently for their DBA, or do the Edgewood instead for a DBA and for cheaper).

[MedicOne]

Most of the ENEB grads who took two or more programs were able to get into VUL DHA because of the favorable Validential evaluation.  For those not going the ENEB route, you can do the UMPI MAOL and HAU MBA combo as an example.  I'd rather have two degrees instead of taking the classes just for those extra 24 credits at the Masters level.  You may want to email VUL if they would accept you without the Validential evaluation (like Edgewood College did recently for their DBA, or do the Edgewood instead for a DBA and for cheaper).

I'm going the Global MBA route through ENEB and kinda feel screwed at this point. It's basically a paperweight.

I mean it's accredited and grants ECTS so I'm confused why Validential changed their reasoning.

bjcheung77 what do you recommend?

[huiwh1998]

I've been told that Validential will provide the School of Business and Trade (SOBAT) with a US Master's equivalent...so it's worth a try for those who really want to pursue a VUL DHA.

Are there any guinea pigs...?

[slammX]

I've been told that Validential will provide the School of Business and Trade (SOBAT) with a US Master's equivalent...so it's worth a try for those who really want to pursue a VUL DHA.

Are there any guinea pigs...?

I tried it last year. They refused to evaluate and refunded me.

[huiwh1998]

Most of the ENEB grads who took two or more programs were able to get into VUL DHA because of the favorable Validential evaluation.  For those not going the ENEB route, you can do the UMPI MAOL and HAU MBA combo as an example.  I'd rather have two degrees instead of taking the classes just for those extra 24 credits at the Masters level.  You may want to email VUL if they would accept you without the Validential evaluation (like Edgewood College did recently for their DBA, or do the Edgewood instead for a DBA and for cheaper).

I'm going the Global MBA route through ENEB and kinda feel screwed at this point. It's basically a paperweight.

I mean it's accredited and grants ECTS so I'm confused why Validential changed their reasoning.

bjcheung77 what do you recommend?

Evaluate it with IEE; if everything goes right, you'll get 45 US graduate credits. Transfer those evaluated graduate credits to the Walden MBA (Accepts 50% transfer, should be quite lenient from what I've heard), if you really want to fully utilize your ENEB; otherwise, go with UMPI MAOL. With tempo learning and credits transfer (Walden's CBE), you'll be finishing in 3 months.

Idk if graduate credits can be reused, even if so, you should be able to have enough credits for "an externship of up to 24 credits"  and an extra master's. Still lacking graduate credits? Buy one more ENEB and evaluate it with IEE. No bachelors? No problem, just buy an ENEB+UI1 and evaluate it as a bachelor's with ECE. Use the agile methodology (answering 50 MCs) for faster graduation.

Guinna pig idea: Do SOBAT and evaluate it with Validential, they've got 2 Master programs there...I'm pretty sure a bachelor's at SOBAT will get evaluated as a US equivalent.

Disclaimer: The above MIGHT work, but definitely not guaranteed.

Source: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...436/page-3 #43

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I think you could just get away with "an externship of up to 24 credits" with graduate credits evaluated by IEE... 24 credits doesn't make up a full master's, and IEE will be just fine... It's worth a try...

[MedicOne]

Most of the ENEB grads who took two or more programs were able to get into VUL DHA because of the favorable Validential evaluation.  For those not going the ENEB route, you can do the UMPI MAOL and HAU MBA combo as an example.  I'd rather have two degrees instead of taking the classes just for those extra 24 credits at the Masters level.  You may want to email VUL if they would accept you without the Validential evaluation (like Edgewood College did recently for their DBA, or do the Edgewood instead for a DBA and for cheaper).

I'm going the Global MBA route through ENEB and kinda feel screwed at this point. It's basically a paperweight.

I mean it's accredited and grants ECTS so I'm confused why Validential changed their reasoning.

bjcheung77 what do you recommend?

Evaluate it with IEE; if everything goes right, you'll get 45 US graduate credits. Transfer those evaluated graduate credits to the Walden MBA (Accepts 50% transfer, should be quite lenient from what I've heard), if you really want to fully utilize your ENEB; otherwise, go with UMPI MAOL. With tempo learning and credits transfer (Walden's CBE), you'll be finishing in 3 months.

Idk if graduate credits can be reused, even if so, you should be able to have enough credits for "an externship of up to 24 credits"  and an extra master's. Still lacking graduate credits? Buy one more ENEB and evaluate it with IEE. No bachelors? No problem, just buy an ENEB+UI1 and evaluate it as a bachelor's with ECE. Use the agile methodology (answering 50 MCs) for faster graduation.

Guinna pig idea: Do SOBAT and evaluate it with Validential, they've got 2 Master programs there...I'm pretty sure a bachelor's at SOBAT will get evaluated as a US equivalent.

Disclaimer: The above MIGHT work, but definitely not guaranteed.

Source: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...436/page-3 #43

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I think you could just get away with "an externship of up to 24 credits" with graduate credits evaluated by IEE... 24 credits doesn't make up a full master's, and IEE will be just fine... It's worth a try...

Can you elaborate further in this? I am not following....the Walden part below....

Evaluate it with IEE; if everything goes right, you'll get 45 US graduate credits. Transfer the credits to the Walden MBA (Accepts 50% transfer, should be quite lenient from what I've heard), if you really want to fully utilize your ENEB; otherwise, go with UMPI MAOL. With tempo learning and credits transfer (Walden's CBE), you'll be finishing in 3 months.

[huiwh1998]

Most of the ENEB grads who took two or more programs were able to get into VUL DHA because of the favorable Validential evaluation.  For those not going the ENEB route, you can do the UMPI MAOL and HAU MBA combo as an example.  I'd rather have two degrees instead of taking the classes just for those extra 24 credits at the Masters level.  You may want to email VUL if they would accept you without the Validential evaluation (like Edgewood College did recently for their DBA, or do the Edgewood instead for a DBA and for cheaper).

I'm going the Global MBA route through ENEB and kinda feel screwed at this point. It's basically a paperweight.

I mean it's accredited and grants ECTS so I'm confused why Validential changed their reasoning.

bjcheung77 what do you recommend?

Evaluate it with IEE; if everything goes right, you'll get 45 US graduate credits. Transfer those evaluated graduate credits to the Walden MBA (Accepts 50% transfer, should be quite lenient from what I've heard), if you really want to fully utilize your ENEB; otherwise, go with UMPI MAOL. With tempo learning and credits transfer (Walden's CBE), you'll be finishing in 3 months.

Idk if graduate credits can be reused, even if so, you should be able to have enough credits for "an externship of up to 24 credits"  and an extra master's. Still lacking graduate credits? Buy one more ENEB and evaluate it with IEE. No bachelors? No problem, just buy an ENEB+UI1 and evaluate it as a bachelor's with ECE. Use the agile methodology (answering 50 MCs) for faster graduation.

Guinna pig idea: Do SOBAT and evaluate it with Validential, they've got 2 Master programs there...I'm pretty sure a bachelor's at SOBAT will get evaluated as a US equivalent.

Disclaimer: The above MIGHT work, but definitely not guaranteed.

Source: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...436/page-3 #43

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I think you could just get away with "an externship of up to 24 credits" with graduate credits evaluated by IEE... 24 credits doesn't make up a full master's, and IEE will be just fine... It's worth a try...

Can you elaborate further in this? I am not following....the Walden part below....

Evaluate it with IEE; if everything goes right, you'll get 45 US graduate credits. Transfer the credits to the Walden MBA (Accepts 50% transfer, should be quite lenient from what I've heard), if you really want to fully utilize your ENEB; otherwise, go with UMPI MAOL. With tempo learning and credits transfer (Walden's CBE), you'll be finishing in 3 months.

Conversion chart: 2 ECTS= 1 semester credits = 1.5 quarter credits

Look at the curriculum https://www.vul.edu/dha/curriculum.html

At the bottom, it says, "This program requires graduates to have a minimum of 90 graduate semester credit hours beyond the bachelor's degree. An externship of up to 24 credit hours may be required for students to fulfill this requirement." So, not only do you need a Master's degree to fulfill the requirement (admission requirements), you also need 24 extra semester credits. How do you fulfill a Master's degree and 24 credits? Walden is lenient on transferring credits to its graduate program (maximum 50%) and offers competency-based learning. And IEE is known for evaluating ENEB+UI1 to a graduate certificate, and by transferring graduate credits (the ENEB+UI1 graduate certificate) to Walden (Let's say MBA), you might finish a Master's quickly (since it's competency-based) and leave with some graduate credits. IF Walden takes 15 semester credits (22.5 quarter graduate credits since Walden uses quarter credits), you're left with 30 graduate semester credits unused. In theory, you may study VUL's DHA with such a method, but in reality, nobody has ever tried, so who knows... Might be worth a try, since VUL's kind of lenient...