ENEB New Master Thread

[bjcheung77]

Great stuff, now you've got two RA Bachelors degrees... Time to go for a Masters or a short cut is to have another set of programs evaluated as graduate credit towards transfers at some other institutions that will take them, even at Walden as an example.

[arad]

What usually bothers me a bit is, that UI1 doesn't "grant" or "confers" a degree to you. They always say "certificate" which can mean anything. So is this stuff a "real degree" (maybe titulo propio) or do you just get a "certificate" of your education and this education is certified by UI1.
If you stick strictly to the letter of the certificate it might be illegal to use the "title" of Master or MBA in most EU-States.

The ENEB Homepage talks about "degrees", but can, as I understand, not issue degrees by itself.

It's embarrassing to see some forum members include UI1 in their signatures (especially the ones who don't even mention Eneb), falsely presenting themselves as UI1 graduates. Despite UI1's clear stance that participants are not UI1 graduates, certain members use misleading arguments to claim otherwise. For instance, some point to IEE or ECE validations or Ui1's online verifications to justify their claims, while others, like one individual calling himself a "Dr.," argues that his degree on LinkedIn has never been questioned . Another member even claimed that the relationship between ENEB and UI1 is like that of an edX. Their logic is flawed, having a degree recognized as equivalent by another institution, doesn’t make one a UI1 graduate. 

It's like claiming a Stanford degree because Stanford University issued a certificate declaring that a Saylor Academy degree is equivalent to a RA Master's.

With the new collaboration offering up to 15 ECTS credits transferable to official programs and the introduction of a "título propio," some members may feel emboldened to misrepresent themselves as UI1 graduates. However, the validity of these credits is questionable, has anyone confirmed whether Universidad Isabel I actually accept them? Most European countries don’t recognize títulos propios for transfer, even from state universities, with rare exceptions among private institutions.
To be clear, I’m an ENEB graduate myself and understand the temptation to leverage UI1’s name on a resume for practical reasons. But doing so in this forum, where the distinction is well known (or apparently it's not), feels disingenuous. You're allowed to use MBA next to your name if you have a titulo propio in EU, but I'm not sure if that also applies to institutions like Eneb.

UI1 isn't a famous or well-known school. What's the point/benefit of pretending to be a UI1 graduate?  Are you being too sensitive?

The question isn't whether I'm "too sensitive", but why you'd even ask that in a discussion about academic integrity. My post may have been a bit complex for you, so let me clarify. After all, we’re all here to learn and contribute   .
The issue isn't UI1's fame. it's that UI1 is what actually appears on ENEB graduates' certificates, that's the irony you missed. It's about accuracy in representation. Why would someone put UI1 on a resume instead of ENEB? Search for ENEB online and results are rather mixed to negative. Universidad Isabel I, on the other hand, shows up as a recognized university. I hope things are more clear to you now. Take care

[KSoul]

I decided to pursue the UNISEB Validation, primarily for the Ui1 transcript, and for the reasons below:

I had primarily intended to take a Master's program at ENEB/Ui1 to be submitted to ECE for the US RA Equivalency, but I took a "Double Master (MBA + Master) thinking I would earn two diplomas, but I didn't know at the time that the diplomas could not be separated.

After my completion of the ENEB MBA + Master program, ENEB has informed me that the Double Master (MBA + Master) is considered a single program and that if I wanted to have two separate diplomas, I would have to take each program independently.

This UNISEB transfer campaign allows me to "convalidate" the MBA portion of the ENEB "MBA + Master" program as a Ui1 UNISEB MBA diploma with a transcript issued by Ui1. It effectively allows me to separate/extract the MBA portion from the ENEB/Ui1 "MBA + Master" into a single MBA.

ENEB doesn't reissue the original "MBA + Master" as a standalone Master diploma at the end of this process either, which is a sticking point with me. It bugs me that my US RA Bachelor's Equivalency evaluation by ECE currently reads "MBA + Master".

For this reason, in addition to the UNISEB transfer for the MBA, I have decided to re-do a ENEB Master degree as a single Master program which I will use solely for US RA Bachelor's degree equivalency via ECE

It seems perhaps down the line, some of the other ENEB programs will also be eligible for the UNISEB transfer. I say this because while registering, I saw in the PDF brochure (in Spanish) from ISEB, there are 17 ENEB programs that are mapped for a UNISEB Transfer. On the dropdown menu during that registration process, was only the MBA option for transfer to UNISEB. I am told that it is because ISEB only offers courses in Spanish at this time. (Except for the MBA transfer program in English, by mid-October).

Thanks for the details. For my brain, this is how I understood it:

Pathway with ENEB - Ui1 (UNISEB) - ECE
1. Credit Transfer to TESU (BSBA Completion)

Action: Use UNISEB transfer to obtain Ui1 transcript (recognized Spanish university).

Action: Submit Ui1 transcript to ECE for evaluation.

Result: TESU should accept credits as RA transfer (ECE usually grants ~30 credits per degree).

2. University Entry in Germany (Before Q1 2026)

Action: Secure Ui1-issued MBA diploma + transcript (via UNISEB).

Result: Ui1 is EHEA-recognized - eligible for German university admissions.

Backup: If the TESU degree is finished by 2026, entry via TESU BSBA/ straightforward.

3. Internship Opportunities in Germany
Action: Present Ui1 MBA diploma as clear proof of degree.

Alternative: Show ECE evaluation for U.S. RA bachelor’s equivalency if internship requires a bachelor’s degree.

2026 is going to be a fun year for him

[arad]

I decided to pursue the UNISEB Validation, primarily for the Ui1 transcript, and for the reasons below:

I had primarily intended to take a Master's program at ENEB/Ui1 to be submitted to ECE for the US RA Equivalency, but I took a "Double Master (MBA + Master) thinking I would earn two diplomas, but I didn't know at the time that the diplomas could not be separated.

After my completion of the ENEB MBA + Master program, ENEB has informed me that the Double Master (MBA + Master) is considered a single program and that if I wanted to have two separate diplomas, I would have to take each program independently.

This UNISEB transfer campaign allows me to "convalidate" the MBA portion of the ENEB "MBA + Master" program as a Ui1 UNISEB MBA diploma with a transcript issued by Ui1. It effectively allows me to separate/extract the MBA portion from the ENEB/Ui1 "MBA + Master" into a single MBA.

ENEB doesn't reissue the original "MBA + Master" as a standalone Master diploma at the end of this process either, which is a sticking point with me. It bugs me that my US RA Bachelor's Equivalency evaluation by ECE currently reads "MBA + Master".

For this reason, in addition to the UNISEB transfer for the MBA, I have decided to re-do a ENEB Master degree as a single Master program which I will use solely for US RA Bachelor's degree equivalency via ECE

It seems perhaps down the line, some of the other ENEB programs will also be eligible for the UNISEB transfer. I say this because while registering, I saw in the PDF brochure (in Spanish) from ISEB, there are 17 ENEB programs that are mapped for a UNISEB Transfer. On the dropdown menu during that registration process, was only the MBA option for transfer to UNISEB. I am told that it is because ISEB only offers courses in Spanish at this time. (Except for the MBA transfer program in English, by mid-October).

Thanks for the details. For my brain, this is how I understood it:

Pathway with ENEB - Ui1 (UNISEB) - ECE
1. Credit Transfer to TESU (BSBA Completion)

Action: Use UNISEB transfer to obtain Ui1 transcript (recognized Spanish university).

Action: Submit Ui1 transcript to ECE for evaluation.

Result: TESU should accept credits as RA transfer (ECE usually grants ~30 credits per degree).

2. University Entry in Germany (Before Q1 2026)

Action: Secure Ui1-issued MBA diploma + transcript (via UNISEB).

Result: Ui1 is EHEA-recognized - eligible for German university admissions.

Backup: If the TESU degree is finished by 2026, entry via TESU BSBA/ straightforward.

3. Internship Opportunities in Germany
Action: Present Ui1 MBA diploma as clear proof of degree.

Alternative: Show ECE evaluation for U.S. RA bachelor’s equivalency if internship requires a bachelor’s degree.

2026 is going to be a fun year for him

german state universities don't accept titulo propios, it has to be official. there are some exceptions among private universities. It's better to use Tesu. An employer, however, might accept the propio

[Maltus]

I decided to pursue the UNISEB Validation, primarily for the Ui1 transcript, and for the reasons below:

I had primarily intended to take a Master's program at ENEB/Ui1 to be submitted to ECE for the US RA Equivalency, but I took a "Double Master (MBA + Master) thinking I would earn two diplomas, but I didn't know at the time that the diplomas could not be separated.

After my completion of the ENEB MBA + Master program, ENEB has informed me that the Double Master (MBA + Master) is considered a single program and that if I wanted to have two separate diplomas, I would have to take each program independently.

This UNISEB transfer campaign allows me to "convalidate" the MBA portion of the ENEB "MBA + Master" program as a Ui1 UNISEB MBA diploma with a transcript issued by Ui1. It effectively allows me to separate/extract the MBA portion from the ENEB/Ui1 "MBA + Master" into a single MBA.

ENEB doesn't reissue the original "MBA + Master" as a standalone Master diploma at the end of this process either, which is a sticking point with me. It bugs me that my US RA Bachelor's Equivalency evaluation by ECE currently reads "MBA + Master".

For this reason, in addition to the UNISEB transfer for the MBA, I have decided to re-do a ENEB Master degree as a single Master program which I will use solely for US RA Bachelor's degree equivalency via ECE

It seems perhaps down the line, some of the other ENEB programs will also be eligible for the UNISEB transfer. I say this because while registering, I saw in the PDF brochure (in Spanish) from ISEB, there are 17 ENEB programs that are mapped for a UNISEB Transfer. On the dropdown menu during that registration process, was only the MBA option for transfer to UNISEB. I am told that it is because ISEB only offers courses in Spanish at this time. (Except for the MBA transfer program in English, by mid-October).

Thanks for the details. For my brain, this is how I understood it:

Pathway with ENEB - Ui1 (UNISEB) - ECE
1. Credit Transfer to TESU (BSBA Completion)

Action: Use UNISEB transfer to obtain Ui1 transcript (recognized Spanish university).

Action: Submit Ui1 transcript to ECE for evaluation.

Result: TESU should accept credits as RA transfer (ECE usually grants ~30 credits per degree).

2. University Entry in Germany (Before Q1 2026)

Action: Secure Ui1-issued MBA diploma + transcript (via UNISEB).

Result: Ui1 is EHEA-recognized - eligible for German university admissions.

Backup: If the TESU degree is finished by 2026, entry via TESU BSBA/ straightforward.

3. Internship Opportunities in Germany
Action: Present Ui1 MBA diploma as clear proof of degree.

Alternative: Show ECE evaluation for U.S. RA bachelor’s equivalency if internship requires a bachelor’s degree.

2026 is going to be a fun year for him

german state universities don't accept titulo propios, it has to be official. there are some exceptions among private universities. It's better to use Tesu. An employer, however, might accept the propio

Yup, he should check beforehand if the German university accepts credits by ENEB, even so they are "evaluated". German universities can be quite picky even requiring proof that the credit matches the modules of the subject you want to study. In my current masters I had to proof that the credit was earned from a module that nearly 100% matches the moduleI would want to substitue it for. Even switching from one German university to another can be a real pain in the butt.

And since Spain and Germany are both within the Bologna-Area there is no need to have credits evaluated by ECE or such. If you have a transcript from UI1 with the ECTS you should be fine if it matches the modules you want to substitute.

[arad]

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Yup, he should check beforehand if the German university accepts credits by ENEB, even so they are "evaluated". German universities can be quite picky even requiring proof that the credit matches the modules of the subject you want to study. In my current masters I had to proof that the credit was earned from a module that nearly 100% matches the moduleI would want to substitue it for. Even switching from one German university to another can be a real pain in the butt.

And since Spain and Germany are both within the Bologna-Area there is no need to have credits evaluated by ECE or such. If you have a transcript from UI1 with the ECTS you should be fine if it matches the modules you want to substitute.

[/quote]

according to the  "Äquivalenzabkommen" between Germany and Spain, only an official degree is valid. So, even if someone actually graduates from Ui1, if it's a propio, it won't be accepted. do you think a german uni would accept any EU degree without evaluation?  
https://zab.kmk.org/de/app/pre-check/pre-check

https://anabin.kmk.org/db/abschlusstypen

[Maltus]

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Yup, he should check beforehand if the German university accepts credits by ENEB, even so they are "evaluated". German universities can be quite picky even requiring proof that the credit matches the modules of the subject you want to study. In my current masters I had to proof that the credit was earned from a module that nearly 100% matches the moduleI would want to substitue it for. Even switching from one German university to another can be a real pain in the butt.

And since Spain and Germany are both within the Bologna-Area there is no need to have credits evaluated by ECE or such. If you have a transcript from UI1 with the ECTS you should be fine if it matches the modules you want to substitute.

according to the  "Äquivalenzabkommen" between Germany and Spain, only an official degree is valid. So, even if someone actually graduates from Ui1, if it's a propio, it won't be accepted. do you think a german uni would accept any EU degree without evaluation?  
https://zab.kmk.org/de/app/pre-check/pre-check

https://anabin.kmk.org/db/abschlusstypen
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True - can't use a propio from Spain to start your doctoral studies in Germany, same goes for Austrian Masters from "Hochschullehrgängen" or Masters from continious education. This cases are outside Bologna - same goes for "MBA" in Czech Rebublic, which isn't considered a Bologna-conform degree.
But you don't need the degree or courses from other schools to be evaluated for Northamerica to use the credits in Germany. The university can decide case by case if they accept your education in lieu of some credits or instead of some missing requirements.
I only hold a Diplom (FH) which equals 180 ECTS. Since you need for a Master 300 ECTS in total, according to Bologna, I was very limited in chosing a program. Currently I do a 60 ECTS Master. The missing 60 credits the school squeezed out of some credits I got on some certificates and by accepting my professionel experience. But that was case by case.

So I guess we are both right: They don't have to accept it and they won't accept ENEB or UI1 to start your PhD, but they might accept the courses and give you at least some credit. :-)

[chopliver2]

Great stuff, now you've got two RA Bachelors degrees... Time to go for a Masters or a short cut is to have another set of programs evaluated as graduate credit towards transfers at some other institutions that will take them, even at Walden as an example.

Walden can’t be finished in one term.

[huiwh1998]

What usually bothers me a bit is, that UI1 doesn't "grant" or "confers" a degree to you. They always say "certificate" which can mean anything. So is this stuff a "real degree" (maybe titulo propio) or do you just get a "certificate" of your education and this education is certified by UI1.
If you stick strictly to the letter of the certificate it might be illegal to use the "title" of Master or MBA in most EU-States.

The ENEB Homepage talks about "degrees", but can, as I understand, not issue degrees by itself.

It's embarrassing to see some forum members include UI1 in their signatures (especially the ones who don't even mention Eneb), falsely presenting themselves as UI1 graduates. Despite UI1's clear stance that participants are not UI1 graduates, certain members use misleading arguments to claim otherwise. For instance, some point to IEE or ECE validations or Ui1's online verifications to justify their claims, while others, like one individual calling himself a "Dr.," argues that his degree on LinkedIn has never been questioned . Another member even claimed that the relationship between ENEB and UI1 is like that of an edX. Their logic is flawed, having a degree recognized as equivalent by another institution, doesn’t make one a UI1 graduate. 

It's like claiming a Stanford degree because Stanford University issued a certificate declaring that a Saylor Academy degree is equivalent to a RA Master's.

With the new collaboration offering up to 15 ECTS credits transferable to official programs and the introduction of a "título propio," some members may feel emboldened to misrepresent themselves as UI1 graduates. However, the validity of these credits is questionable, has anyone confirmed whether Universidad Isabel I actually accept them? Most European countries don’t recognize títulos propios for transfer, even from state universities, with rare exceptions among private institutions.
To be clear, I’m an ENEB graduate myself and understand the temptation to leverage UI1’s name on a resume for practical reasons. But doing so in this forum, where the distinction is well known (or apparently it's not), feels disingenuous. You're allowed to use MBA next to your name if you have a titulo propio in EU, but I'm not sure if that also applies to institutions like Eneb.

UI1 isn't a famous or well-known school. What's the point/benefit of pretending to be a UI1 graduate?  Are you being too sensitive?

The question isn't whether I'm "too sensitive", but why you'd even ask that in a discussion about academic integrity. My post may have been a bit complex for you, so let me clarify. After all, we’re all here to learn and contribute   .
The issue isn't UI1's fame. it's that UI1 is what actually appears on ENEB graduates' certificates, that's the irony you missed. It's about accuracy in representation. Why would someone put UI1 on a resume instead of ENEB? Search for ENEB online and results are rather mixed to negative. Universidad Isabel I, on the other hand, shows up as a recognized university. I hope things are more clear to you now. Take care

Calling it “résumé fraud” to list the actual awarding university that’s on the diploma is a stretch. By that logic, I should also include the courier service that delivered my degree and the brand of ink used on the certificate. ENEB provided coursework, sure, but UI1 is the accredited institution that granted the degree, exactly what’s written on the diploma, and exactly what credential evaluators like ECE recognize. That’s not misleading; that’s just how résumés are supposed to work: you highlight your strongest, accurate credentials, not every subcontractor along the way.

[eLearner]

This was settled years ago. Both ENEB and Isabel told students it's okay to use Isabel on your resume. They don't care. They know that these arrangements are not as well understood outside of Spain, so no need to further complicate things for yourself by listing two schools and then having explain the arrangement and all.