ENEB New Master Thread

[Maltus]

Just out of curiosity: How long does it take to do an ENEB Master, if I Invest one or two days per week with no real background in business?
What was the fastest, one of you guys and girls have done a Masters from ENEB?

And to our Europen / German friends: Has anyone ever submitted ENEB / UI1 Diplomas to ANABIN / KMK for official evaluation. That would be quite interesting what they have to say about it, since ANABIN evaluates Titulo propio Masters from official Universities in Span as "Post graduate studies" and not equivalent to a scientific Master. I'd love to see what they say to an ENEB Diploma with UI1 certification

[handlemethis]

Just out of curiosity: How long does it take to do an ENEB Master, if I Invest one or two days per week with no real background in business?
What was the fastest, one of you guys and girls have done a Masters from ENEB?

And to our Europen / German friends: Has anyone ever submitted ENEB /  UI1 Diplomas to ANABIN / KMK for official evaluation. That would be quite interesting what they have to say about it, since ANABIN evaluates Titulo propio Masters from official Universities in Span as "Post graduate studies" and not equivalent to a scientific Master. I'd love to see what they say to an ENEB Diploma with UI1 certification

Honestly, it could be as fast or as slow as you want. I do have industry experience and my strategy was accessing the final assignment and reviewing the scenarios and questions before I dive into the assignment. Then I review the manual and align my responses to the course syllabus. I generally draft around 800-1000 words per question.

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

What usually bothers me a bit is, that UI1 doesn't "grant" or "confers" a degree to you. They always say "certificate" which can mean anything. So is this stuff a "real degree" (maybe titulo propio) or do you just get a "certificate" of your education and this education is certified by UI1.
If you stick strictly to the letter of the certificate it might be illegal to use the "title" of Master or MBA in most EU-States.

The ENEB Homepage talks about "degrees", but can, as I understand, not issue degrees by itself.

It's embarrassing to see some forum members include UI1 in their signatures (especially the ones who don't even mention Eneb), falsely presenting themselves as UI1 graduates. Despite UI1's clear stance that participants are not UI1 graduates, certain members use misleading arguments to claim otherwise. For instance, some point to IEE or ECE validations or Ui1's online verifications to justify their claims, while others, like one individual calling himself a "Dr.," argues that his degree on LinkedIn has never been questioned . Another member even claimed that the relationship between ENEB and UI1 is like that of an edX. Their logic is flawed, having a degree recognized as equivalent by another institution, doesn’t make one a UI1 graduate. 

It's like claiming a Stanford degree because Stanford University issued a certificate declaring that a Saylor Academy degree is equivalent to a RA Master's.

With the new collaboration offering up to 15 ECTS credits transferable to official programs and the introduction of a "título propio," some members may feel emboldened to misrepresent themselves as UI1 graduates. However, the validity of these credits is questionable, has anyone confirmed whether Universidad Isabel I actually accept them? Most European countries don’t recognize títulos propios for transfer, even from state universities, with rare exceptions among private institutions.
To be clear, I’m an ENEB graduate myself and understand the temptation to leverage UI1’s name on a resume for practical reasons. But doing so in this forum, where the distinction is well known (or apparently it's not), feels disingenuous. You're allowed to use MBA next to your name if you have a titulo propio in EU, but I'm not sure if that also applies to institutions like Eneb.

UI1 isn't a famous or well-known school. What's the point/benefit of pretending to be a UI1 graduate?  Are you being too sensitive?

The question isn't whether I'm "too sensitive", but why you'd even ask that in a discussion about academic integrity. My post may have been a bit complex for you, so let me clarify. After all, we’re all here to learn and contribute   .
The issue isn't UI1's fame. it's that UI1 is what actually appears on ENEB graduates' certificates, that's the irony you missed. It's about accuracy in representation. Why would someone put UI1 on a resume instead of ENEB? Search for ENEB online and results are rather mixed to negative. Universidad Isabel I, on the other hand, shows up as a recognized university. I hope things are more clear to you now. Take care

Calling it “résumé fraud” to list the actual awarding university that’s on the diploma is a stretch. By that logic, I should also include the courier service that delivered my degree and the brand of ink used on the certificate. ENEB provided coursework, sure, but UI1 is the accredited institution that granted the degree, exactly what’s written on the diploma, and exactly what credential evaluators like ECE recognize. That’s not misleading; that’s just how résumés are supposed to work: you highlight your strongest, accurate credentials, not every subcontractor along the way.

It is more of a personal choice to use MBA next to a person's name. In some instances, it is advisable to leave the MBA in the education section of the resume, because certain roles do not require an MBA, and listing it next to one's name might work against the person. For example, a sales role in finance generally doesn't require an MBA, while some employers prefer to have it, depending on the target customer segment, especially if the products and services offered are being presented to and negotiated with a C-suite of executives. For those types of roles, an MBA may be mentioned as a desired qualification on the job description, but is not an absolute requirement. 

Titulo Propio attained through ENEB, via certification by Ui1, doesn't necessarily make it less of a Titulo Propio. A technicality is that it's certified by Ui1 where the courses were taught at ENEB, thus the transcripts are from ENEB, not Ui1. It is slightly different than taking the programs directly at Ui1, which would be a little better for transcript evaluation purposes, but not that different.

[handlemethis]

Question around the final grades. When it comes to evaluations, do 8.5 scores hurt you in any way? My brother has been scoring high marks (e.g., 9+-10); however, he has scored one 8.5, and he asked if it was worth revising and resubmitting for a second attempt. Considering ECE uses S (Satisfactory), independent if you have a 10 or 8 (guessing maybe even 7) for your final grade, should he put the time in?

My ego says yes, but at the end of the day, I am not sure it matters. Thanks for any advice.

Update: He went ahead and made the revisions and, surprisingly, received grades 24h+. ENEB is definitely more efficient in their turnaround compared to when I did the program. Great to see, as I would imagine their student volume is considerably higher now. Perhaps their grading staff (Professors/Tutors)  is a lot higher now to accommodate the volume of papers coming through.

Did your brother have to contact ENEB about the second revision or was it automatically graded/updated?

[cacoleman1983]

ENEB did not allow me to revise my papers.  Well actually they did but for only a couple of subjects.   I just received my foreign credential evaluation from IEE for my MBA and my dual Masters degree in Digital Marketing and Analytics & AI.    I received accredited graduate certificates equivalencies which was expected.  However, I received 2.5 credits per course which resulted in 32.5 credits for the MBA and 35 credits for the dual Masters for a total of 67.5 graduate credit hours! 

There seems to be no consistency with these IEE evaluations in terms of credits per course.   Although mines may have more hours because my MBA was from the old program and I was only able to transfer one course into my dual Masters degree program leading me to complete 27 separate courses.

[muhammadabs]

I want to earn a bachelor’s degree by having an ENEB degree evaluated by ECE. Is that possible?
Has anyone had recent experience with this and can share advice?
Also, should I choose the Agile program for $320 a single master, or are there cheaper and faster alternatives?

[Maltus]

I want to earn a bachelor’s degree by having an ENEB degree evaluated by ECE. Is that possible?
Has anyone had recent experience with this and can share advice?
Also, should I choose the Agile program for $320 a single master, or are there cheaper and faster alternatives?

Welcome to the Forum and congrats on your first post!
 There is a Template in Degree-planning-section. If you could give that information it would help a lot: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...Area-works

And did you have a look at the wiki? That might also be a good ressource for you: 
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/ENEB

Maybe that gives you a clue. And what BA do you want to obtain? What can you invest - beside ENEB?

[JC39]

I had ENEB send my diploma that is validated by Universidad Isabel I along with their own diploma and transcript directly to ECE. I know other students have had success with this but this is what I am being told right now.

This is the response I got from ECE:

“ENEB is not a degree granting institution in Spain. It has not been granted degree awarding powers by the Spanish Parliament or the legislative assembly of the Autonomous Community of Catalunya, nor is it listed in the RUCT as an official centro universitario adscrito to Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla. Accreditation by the European Association for International Education and membership in the Spanish Association of Business Schools do not confer official degree granting status or recognition as an official centro universitario adscrito.

Because ENEB is neither a degree granting university nor an official centro universitario adscrito, ECE can only show credit for the specialization program if Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla issues documentation confirming that it awarded ECTS credits for the program. If the university does not issue documentation showing they are awarding credit themselves, ECE has no basis to assign credit.

If the university will not provide a document confirming the number of credits awarded for the specialization program, ECE can either omit this credential from the report or include it as a general item with no credit recommendation, indicating it is equivalent to non credit study.”



This has me really frustrated because I already transferred one global master and three double masters. From what I read on the wiki and in other reports it was supposed to convert to a RA bachelors equivalent. Now they are saying it does not.

I know some people got RA credit for their ENEB and Isabel I programs. What did they do differently. Did they get a specific document from Universidad Isabel I that confirmed the credits.

If anyone has gone through this recently or can share how they got it accepted please let me know. I just want some clarity on what to ask for so I can move forward.

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

I had ENEB send my diploma that is validated by Universidad Isabel I along with their own diploma and transcript directly to ECE. I know other students have had success with this but this is what I am being told right now.

This is the response I got from ECE:

“ENEB is not a degree granting institution in Spain. It has not been granted degree awarding powers by the Spanish Parliament or the legislative assembly of the Autonomous Community of Catalunya, nor is it listed in the RUCT as an official centro universitario adscrito to Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla. Accreditation by the European Association for International Education and membership in the Spanish Association of Business Schools do not confer official degree granting status or recognition as an official centro universitario adscrito.

Because ENEB is neither a degree granting university nor an official centro universitario adscrito, ECE can only show credit for the specialization program if Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla issues documentation confirming that it awarded ECTS credits for the program. If the university does not issue documentation showing they are awarding credit themselves, ECE has no basis to assign credit.

If the university will not provide a document confirming the number of credits awarded for the specialization program, ECE can either omit this credential from the report or include it as a general item with no credit recommendation, indicating it is equivalent to non credit study.”



This has me really frustrated because I already transferred one global master and three double masters. From what I read on the wiki and in other reports it was supposed to convert to a RA bachelors equivalent. Now they are saying it does not.

I know some people got RA credit for their ENEB and Isabel I programs. What did they do differently. Did they get a specific document from Universidad Isabel I that confirmed the credits.

If anyone has gone through this recently or can share how they got it accepted please let me know. I just want some clarity on what to ask for so I can move forward.

Which school (ENEB or Isabel I) did you start off the ECE Evaluation request? I initiated the evaluation request for Isabel I, not ENEB. 
Did you upload the Isabel I diploma on your ECE portal? ECE will only evaluate the Isabel I Diploma that you upload.


1. I uploaded the Isabel I Diploma on the ECE portal. I had ENEB email the ENEB Diploma and Transcript directly to ECE.
2. ECE said they couldn't verify the Isabel I diploma on the Isabel I site.  I let them know to enter the long CSV code on the back of the Ui1 Diploma, and in the next prompt, the ID number from the front of the Diploma (Your Passport # usually)
3. ECE confirmed they were able to verify the Isabel I diploma.
4. ECE refunded a portion because they won't do a course-by-course evalution for ENEB because the transcript is not from Isabel I.
5. ECE did a General Report and received an Evaluation as a US Equivalent RA Bachelor's degree for the Isabel I Diploma, without a course-by-course evaluation.
6. The Report lists Ui1 as a US RA Equivalent, but the ENEB diploma as Non-Credit Study.

It sounds like maybe you didn't upload the Ui1 Diploma?  As I recall, by email, ENEB only sends the ENEB diploma and ENEB transcript to ECE.
Also, to be more technical, Ui1 doesn't validate the ENEB diploma; it certifies it, and that's the sticking point for ECE.
Validation would mean that the transcript comes directly from Ui1, the accredited institution that is assessing the ECTS.

ECE Site has instructions for Spain and it states:

[*]If your institution issues electronic documents that include a Código Seguro de Verificación (CSV), then you may submit photocopies or scans

https://accounts.ece.org/DocumentRequirement/183

Please let me know how it goes

[cacoleman1983]

I had ENEB send my diploma that is validated by Universidad Isabel I along with their own diploma and transcript directly to ECE. I know other students have had success with this but this is what I am being told right now.

This is the response I got from ECE:

“ENEB is not a degree granting institution in Spain. It has not been granted degree awarding powers by the Spanish Parliament or the legislative assembly of the Autonomous Community of Catalunya, nor is it listed in the RUCT as an official centro universitario adscrito to Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla. Accreditation by the European Association for International Education and membership in the Spanish Association of Business Schools do not confer official degree granting status or recognition as an official centro universitario adscrito.

Because ENEB is neither a degree granting university nor an official centro universitario adscrito, ECE can only show credit for the specialization program if Universidad Internacional Isabel I de Castilla issues documentation confirming that it awarded ECTS credits for the program. If the university does not issue documentation showing they are awarding credit themselves, ECE has no basis to assign credit.

If the university will not provide a document confirming the number of credits awarded for the specialization program, ECE can either omit this credential from the report or include it as a general item with no credit recommendation, indicating it is equivalent to non credit study.”



This has me really frustrated because I already transferred one global master and three double masters. From what I read on the wiki and in other reports it was supposed to convert to a RA bachelors equivalent. Now they are saying it does not.

I know some people got RA credit for their ENEB and Isabel I programs. What did they do differently. Did they get a specific document from Universidad Isabel I that confirmed the credits.

If anyone has gone through this recently or can share how they got it accepted please let me know. I just want some clarity on what to ask for so I can move forward.

You may have to go ahead with the validation process with UNISEB that ENEB is offering to get the Universdad Isabel I transcript for the MBA validation.   ECE had been issuing an evaluation based on the Universidad Isabel I diploma that just list 30 hours with S marks for each program equivalent to a Bachelors degree while ignoring all of the ENEB documents.  If they are refusing to evaluate ENEB now, you will have get the MBA validation.

ENEB knows that their programs are getting blacklisted by more evaluators which is likely why they are issuing "university-specific" degrees with Universidad Isabel I transcripts through UNISEB validation.