ENEB New Master Thread

[Robson]

I’ve been looking into the same thing and I agree with your observation that the UNISEB marketing still shows the diploma mockups with ISEB mentioned, even though the final award should be from Universidad Isabel I as a Título Propio. From what I’ve seen so far, the end result hasn’t really changed much compared to the old ENEB/ISEB + Ui1 setup: you’d still get the Ui1 propio diploma and a certificate from the training provider.

That’s why I don’t really see the added value of “UNISEB” if it’s only branding the MBA and not expanding to the other degrees. Unless it’s been clarified that evaluators in the U.S. (ECE, IEE, etc.) will recognize the Ui1 award differently under the UNISEB label, it feels like the outcome is the same, it comes down to how the Título Propio is interpreted.

Personally, if a Título Propio ends up transferring as RA master’s equivalent, then it could be worth it. But if not, going the evaluation route with ECE/IEE for RA bachelor’s or grad-level credits seems like the safer bet. I’m still waiting on my evaluation results and hoping for a favorable outcome, but right now I think sticking with a straight evaluator-recognized pathway makes the most sense.

I don't think there will be a new mockup with the diploma being solely awarded by UI1. My guess is that what you see is what you get, and that these diplomas are technically issued by UI1 in that they're issued by "UNISEB | UI1" or "ISEB and UI1" but not standalone by UI1. But at the same time the text at the bottom of the "mockups" (which, again, I think are probably representative of the actual diploma) says that ISEB or UNISEB are the issuers of the title, and that UI1 is the certifier. What the difference is in Spanish regulation or law, I don't know. Someone will just have to guinea-pig it and see if the convalidated degree is more recognised than the normal ENEB one by foreign education evaluators.

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I’ve been looking into the same thing and I agree with your observation that the UNISEB marketing still shows the diploma mockups with ISEB mentioned, even though the final award should be from Universidad Isabel I as a Título Propio. From what I’ve seen so far, the end result hasn’t really changed much compared to the old ENEB/ISEB + Ui1 setup: you’d still get the Ui1 propio diploma and a certificate from the training provider.

That’s why I don’t really see the added value of “UNISEB” if it’s only branding the MBA and not expanding to the other degrees. Unless it’s been clarified that evaluators in the U.S. (ECE, IEE, etc.) will recognize the Ui1 award differently under the UNISEB label, it feels like the outcome is the same, it comes down to how the Título Propio is interpreted.

Personally, if a Título Propio ends up transferring as RA master’s equivalent, then it could be worth it. But if not, going the evaluation route with ECE/IEE for RA bachelor’s or grad-level credits seems like the safer bet. I’m still waiting on my evaluation results and hoping for a favorable outcome, but right now I think sticking with a straight evaluator-recognized pathway makes the most sense.

I don't think there will be a new mockup with the diploma being solely awarded by UI1. My guess is that what you see is what you get, and that these diplomas are technically issued by UI1 in that they're issued by "UNISEB | UI1" or "ISEB and UI1" but not standalone by UI1. But at the same time the text at the bottom of the "mockups" (which, again, I think are probably representative of the actual diploma) says that ISEB or UNISEB are the issuers of the title, and that UI1 is the certifier. What the difference is in Spanish regulation or law, I don't know. Someone will just have to guinea-pig it and see if the convalidated degree is more recognised than the normal ENEB one by foreign education evaluators.

ISEB has been running their programs for a while now. This is the "UI1 diploma" which they refer to, which appears to be the same as the ENEB "diploma", unless someone can correct my Spanish.

[irvineboy]

Regarding the ISEB/UI1 (UNISEB), the actual diploma seems like it will be as the previous post + some letter from them (so your ENEB issued one will now be a UNISEB one)

Transcript - the courses listed will be listed UNISEB transcript not just the ENEB one.

The major difference will be those wanting to have their MBA or Masters evaluated for a RA Bachelors, say at ECE. can now submit that transcript for a course by course eval whereas they wouldnt before for just a UI1

Correct me if I'm wrong

[bjcheung77]

Just wondering...why don’t more people use AICE members to evaluate the ENEB/UI1 diplomas? Looks like only Scholaro and ACEI have been tried so far.

NACES is more widely accepted by almost all institutions, AICE works for most people as long as the institutions accept them.

[nykorn]

Just wondering...why don’t more people use AICE members to evaluate the ENEB/UI1 diplomas? Looks like only Scholaro and ACEI have been tried so far.

It depends on what field you work in.

Public schools typically only accept NACES members. That includes using the degree for getting a public school teacher or substitute teacher license, as well as using it to gain entrance into Masters / Doctorate studies.

Meanwhile people going into the tax field needing to take licensure exams have a totally separate accreditation body which doesn't accept NACES evaluations.

At the same time, Immigration authorities (when applying to ENTER the US as a foreigner) accept, yet again, totally different evaluators from the above two, such as Validential.

The average employer - not in the above fields - doesn't care what evaluator you use and probably won't even ask for an evaluation.

So you really need to know what you're going to use the degree for, before you go ahead and pay for an AICE evaluation, or any evaluation at all. But I suspect the majority of people want to use a NACES member in an effort to get into another school.

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I noticed you can now pay for ENEB with Klarna. Aka break it into interest-free payments. BTW as long as you register with Klarna on a debit card, you can then add a credit card to your account and use that as the payment method, so the 6 (or whatever) even interest-free payments get put onto your credit card one by one, further stretching out your dollar (assuming you gain interest on your money from somewhere). I'm waiting for November and the Black Friday sales.

[huiwh1998]

Just wondering...why don’t more people use AICE members to evaluate the ENEB/UI1 diplomas? Looks like only Scholaro and ACEI have been tried so far.

It depends on what field you work in.

Public schools typically only accept NACES members. That includes using the degree for getting a public school teacher or substitute teacher license, as well as using it to gain entrance into Masters / Doctorate studies.

Meanwhile people going into the tax field needing to take licensure exams have a totally separate accreditation body which doesn't accept NACES evaluations.

At the same time, Immigration authorities (when applying to ENTER the US as a foreigner) accept, yet again, totally different evaluators from the above two, such as Validential.

The average employer - not in the above fields - doesn't care what evaluator you use and probably won't even ask for an evaluation.

So you really need to know what you're going to use the degree for, before you go ahead and pay for an AICE evaluation, or any evaluation at all. But I suspect the majority of people want to use a NACES member in an effort to get into another school.

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I noticed you can now pay for ENEB with Klarna. Aka break it into interest-free payments. BTW as long as you register with Klarna on a debit card, you can then add a credit card to your account and use that as the payment method, so the 6 (or whatever) even interest-free payments get put onto your credit card one by one, further stretching out your dollar (assuming you gain interest on your money from somewhere). I'm waiting for November and the Black Friday sales.

Yeah, but some less competitive schools do take AICE, and it’s definitely waaay more solid than Validential (they don't even accept it now, just saying).

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Just wondering...why don’t more people use AICE members to evaluate the ENEB/UI1 diplomas? Looks like only Scholaro and ACEI have been tried so far.

NACES is more widely accepted by almost all institutions, AICE works for most people as long as the institutions accept them.

AICE members may yield better results!

[cacoleman1983]

AICE members may yield better results!

From what I have read, all AICE evaluators follow similar policies concerning Master Titulo Propio unlike NACES evaluators.  They may vary in how they word the evaluation but generally they equate them as 1 year of graduate study or a graduate diploma/certificate.

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

I’ve been looking into the same thing and I agree with your observation that the UNISEB marketing still shows the diploma mockups with ISEB mentioned, even though the final award should be from Universidad Isabel I as a Título Propio. From what I’ve seen so far, the end result hasn’t really changed much compared to the old ENEB/ISEB + Ui1 setup: you’d still get the Ui1 propio diploma and a certificate from the training provider.

That’s why I don’t really see the added value of “UNISEB” if it’s only branding the MBA and not expanding to the other degrees. Unless it’s been clarified that evaluators in the U.S. (ECE, IEE, etc.) will recognize the Ui1 award differently under the UNISEB label, it feels like the outcome is the same, it comes down to how the Título Propio is interpreted.

Personally, if a Título Propio ends up transferring as RA master’s equivalent, then it could be worth it. But if not, going the evaluation route with ECE/IEE for RA bachelor’s or grad-level credits seems like the safer bet. I’m still waiting on my evaluation results and hoping for a favorable outcome, but right now I think sticking with a straight evaluator-recognized pathway makes the most sense.

I don't think there will be a new mockup with the diploma being solely awarded by UI1. My guess is that what you see is what you get, and that these diplomas are technically issued by UI1 in that they're issued by "UNISEB | UI1" or "ISEB and UI1" but not standalone by UI1. But at the same time the text at the bottom of the "mockups" (which, again, I think are probably representative of the actual diploma) says that ISEB or UNISEB are the issuers of the title, and that UI1 is the certifier. What the difference is in Spanish regulation or law, I don't know. Someone will just have to guinea-pig it and see if the convalidated degree is more recognised than the normal ENEB one by foreign education evaluators.

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I’ve been looking into the same thing and I agree with your observation that the UNISEB marketing still shows the diploma mockups with ISEB mentioned, even though the final award should be from Universidad Isabel I as a Título Propio. From what I’ve seen so far, the end result hasn’t really changed much compared to the old ENEB/ISEB + Ui1 setup: you’d still get the Ui1 propio diploma and a certificate from the training provider.

That’s why I don’t really see the added value of “UNISEB” if it’s only branding the MBA and not expanding to the other degrees. Unless it’s been clarified that evaluators in the U.S. (ECE, IEE, etc.) will recognize the Ui1 award differently under the UNISEB label, it feels like the outcome is the same, it comes down to how the Título Propio is interpreted.

Personally, if a Título Propio ends up transferring as RA master’s equivalent, then it could be worth it. But if not, going the evaluation route with ECE/IEE for RA bachelor’s or grad-level credits seems like the safer bet. I’m still waiting on my evaluation results and hoping for a favorable outcome, but right now I think sticking with a straight evaluator-recognized pathway makes the most sense.

I don't think there will be a new mockup with the diploma being solely awarded by UI1. My guess is that what you see is what you get, and that these diplomas are technically issued by UI1 in that they're issued by "UNISEB | UI1" or "ISEB and UI1" but not standalone by UI1. But at the same time the text at the bottom of the "mockups" (which, again, I think are probably representative of the actual diploma) says that ISEB or UNISEB are the issuers of the title, and that UI1 is the certifier. What the difference is in Spanish regulation or law, I don't know. Someone will just have to guinea-pig it and see if the convalidated degree is more recognised than the normal ENEB one by foreign education evaluators.

ISEB has been running their programs for a while now. This is the "UI1 diploma" which they refer to, which appears to be the same as the ENEB "diploma", unless someone can correct my Spanish.

As a guinea pig who will be reporting with an update in October or later:

ISEB and Ui1 Diplomas look pretty much exactly the same as ENEB when taking an ISEB program, however the "UNISEB" programs on the ISEB Website, the brochures have a difference, that the ISEB Diploma says "ISEB  & Universidad Isabel I" instead of simply "ISEB".  The Ui1 Diploma that accompanies a UNISEB program, also looks the same, but perhaps the verbiage is more favorable on those diplomas. 

The ENEB to ISEB+Ui1 Convalidation landing page have, yet a different Diploma. However the verbiage there still says it is issued by ISEB.

The transcript is likely to be from ISEB that says "ISEB & UNISEB", and signed by both ISEB and Ui1.  I am not holding my breath on this one, but willing to give it a try and see if it provides a more favorable outcome with ECE. It is a slightly more favorable offer because the ISEB diploma on the mockup says "Universidad Isabel I | UNISEB" on the top and is signed by the Rector of Universidad Isabel I. 

ISEB Brochure
https://iseb.es/GUIAS/M/MFE.pdf

UNISEB Brochure
https://iseb.es/GUIAS/UNISEB/M/MBAI.pdf

ENEB to UNISEB Validation Page
https://eneb.com/convunisebusd/

[irvineboy]

I’ve been looking into the same thing and I agree with your observation that the UNISEB marketing still shows the diploma mockups with ISEB mentioned, even though the final award should be from Universidad Isabel I as a Título Propio. From what I’ve seen so far, the end result hasn’t really changed much compared to the old ENEB/ISEB + Ui1 setup: you’d still get the Ui1 propio diploma and a certificate from the training provider.

That’s why I don’t really see the added value of “UNISEB” if it’s only branding the MBA and not expanding to the other degrees. Unless it’s been clarified that evaluators in the U.S. (ECE, IEE, etc.) will recognize the Ui1 award differently under the UNISEB label, it feels like the outcome is the same, it comes down to how the Título Propio is interpreted.

Personally, if a Título Propio ends up transferring as RA master’s equivalent, then it could be worth it. But if not, going the evaluation route with ECE/IEE for RA bachelor’s or grad-level credits seems like the safer bet. I’m still waiting on my evaluation results and hoping for a favorable outcome, but right now I think sticking with a straight evaluator-recognized pathway makes the most sense.

I don't think there will be a new mockup with the diploma being solely awarded by UI1. My guess is that what you see is what you get, and that these diplomas are technically issued by UI1 in that they're issued by "UNISEB | UI1" or "ISEB and UI1" but not standalone by UI1. But at the same time the text at the bottom of the "mockups" (which, again, I think are probably representative of the actual diploma) says that ISEB or UNISEB are the issuers of the title, and that UI1 is the certifier. What the difference is in Spanish regulation or law, I don't know. Someone will just have to guinea-pig it and see if the convalidated degree is more recognised than the normal ENEB one by foreign education evaluators.

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I’ve been looking into the same thing and I agree with your observation that the UNISEB marketing still shows the diploma mockups with ISEB mentioned, even though the final award should be from Universidad Isabel I as a Título Propio. From what I’ve seen so far, the end result hasn’t really changed much compared to the old ENEB/ISEB + Ui1 setup: you’d still get the Ui1 propio diploma and a certificate from the training provider.

That’s why I don’t really see the added value of “UNISEB” if it’s only branding the MBA and not expanding to the other degrees. Unless it’s been clarified that evaluators in the U.S. (ECE, IEE, etc.) will recognize the Ui1 award differently under the UNISEB label, it feels like the outcome is the same, it comes down to how the Título Propio is interpreted.

Personally, if a Título Propio ends up transferring as RA master’s equivalent, then it could be worth it. But if not, going the evaluation route with ECE/IEE for RA bachelor’s or grad-level credits seems like the safer bet. I’m still waiting on my evaluation results and hoping for a favorable outcome, but right now I think sticking with a straight evaluator-recognized pathway makes the most sense.

I don't think there will be a new mockup with the diploma being solely awarded by UI1. My guess is that what you see is what you get, and that these diplomas are technically issued by UI1 in that they're issued by "UNISEB | UI1" or "ISEB and UI1" but not standalone by UI1. But at the same time the text at the bottom of the "mockups" (which, again, I think are probably representative of the actual diploma) says that ISEB or UNISEB are the issuers of the title, and that UI1 is the certifier. What the difference is in Spanish regulation or law, I don't know. Someone will just have to guinea-pig it and see if the convalidated degree is more recognised than the normal ENEB one by foreign education evaluators.

ISEB has been running their programs for a while now. This is the "UI1 diploma" which they refer to, which appears to be the same as the ENEB "diploma", unless someone can correct my Spanish.

As a guinea pig who will be reporting with an update in October or later:

ISEB and Ui1 Diplomas look pretty much exactly the same as ENEB when taking an ISEB program, however the "UNISEB" programs on the ISEB Website, the brochures have a difference, that the ISEB Diploma says "ISEB  & Universidad Isabel I" instead of simply "ISEB".  The Ui1 Diploma that accompanies a UNISEB program, also looks the same, but perhaps the verbiage is more favorable on those diplomas. 

The ENEB to ISEB+Ui1 Convalidation landing page have, yet a different Diploma. However the verbiage there still says it is issued by ISEB.

The transcript is likely to be from ISEB that says "ISEB & UNISEB", and signed by both ISEB and Ui1.  I am not holding my breath on this one, but willing to give it a try and see if it provides a more favorable outcome with ECE. It is a slightly more favorable offer because the ISEB diploma on the mockup says "Universidad Isabel I | UNISEB" on the top and is signed by the Rector of Universidad Isabel I. 

ISEB Brochure
https://iseb.es/GUIAS/M/MFE.pdf

UNISEB Brochure
https://iseb.es/GUIAS/UNISEB/M/MBAI.pdf

ENEB to UNISEB Validation Page
https://eneb.com/convunisebusd/

That's great you are doing this!  Question, did you submit your current documentation to ECE also or just waiting until October to do so? 

I am thinking so far it seems everyone is getting evaluated as RA BA, and you're hoping with the new ISEB/UNISEB credential to resubmit to ECE to see if they can evaluate it as a MBA/MA course by course?  

This would be perfect because you could them submit a transfer with upper level graduate credits.

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

I recently received an evaluation from ECE as an RA BA, but no mention of any credits as a general evaluation report. I was refunded the portion I had paid for the course-by-course evaluation.  What I would prefer from the validation is an evaluation as a RA Bachelor degree with course by course and GPA from ECE.

[irvineboy]

I recently received an evaluation from ECE as an RA BA, but no mention of any credits as a general evaluation report. I was refunded the portion I had paid for the course-by-course evaluation.  What I would prefer from the validation is an evaluation as a RA Bachelor degree with course by course and GPA from ECE.

Good to know.  Yes the course-by-course would be needed to transfer properly or in some cases requires GPA for graduate entrance.  Good luck