ENEB New Master Thread

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

I doubt that most folks enrolled at ENEB even hold a bachelor's degree, so getting an Italian GMU degree probably isn't the walk in the park some make it out to be. 

By bachelor's, I mean a regular bachelor's, not a "UI1 masters" evaluated as a bachelor's, and NACES/ECE evaluations are clearly an American thing; most schools outside the USA will do their own evaluation...

That’s right, Unimarconi doesn’t recognize an ECE/NACES evaluation, they will accept a CIMEA comparability report, or a Declaration of Value from an Italian Consulate. 

For bachelor’s degrees, they want to see a regular one, or an EQF Level 6 qualification.

[JC39]

Here is my current ECE course-by-course evaluation, and I wanted to ask for clarification.

Current Evaluation:

• Global Master (bundled) → 45 credits
  
• Three dual masters → 36 credits each
  
• Total = 153 credits
  
• All counted as bachelor-equivalents
  

What if I had done it differently?

• Instead of the Global Master, I could have taken my Global MBA individually, which includes:
  • MBA – Master of Business Administration
    
  • Master in Big Data and Business Intelligence
    
  • Master in Project Management
    
  • Diploma of Specialization in Innovation and Project Management
    
• Instead of the 3 dual masters, I could have taken 6 individual masters.
  

That would have been 9 separate masters at $129 each, totaling $1,161.
Costs I actually paid:

• Three dual masters → $349 each × 3 = $1,047
  
• Global Master → $649
  
• Total = $1,696
  

So in comparison, paying individually for 9 masters at $129 each would have cost $1,161, which is $535 less than what I actually paid for the bundled and dual programs.

Questions:

• Would I have gotten 9 U.S. bachelor-equivalents instead of 4?
  
• Would I have benefited from doing them individually, or would ECE still have counted overlapping courses and given roughly the same total credits?
  

I’m trying to figure out if paying for dual/bundled programs reduced my potential credit recognition.

I get what you are saying and indeed they counted the bundled degrees differently, you would have had more credits if you weren't bundled.

Here is an live example, I completed a dual masters BUT the degrees were not processed as such, they were two separate Masters.  Instead of getting like you got 36 credits for a dual degree I had 2 individual degrees, which I submitted to ECE, they came back with 30 credits EACH.  I think all individual Masters are treated at 30 credits each, in your case nothing you can do as yours were bundled.

I’m trying to understand how ECE handles multiple master’s programs when there are overlaps.

Let’s say instead of bundled/dual programs, I had completed 9 separate master’s diplomas. From what I’ve seen, ECE often evaluates each master’s at around 30 U.S. credits, so on paper that could add up to 270 credits.

Here’s my concern:
• When a U.S. school actually tries to use those credits for undergraduate/bachelor purposes, will they look at the transcripts, see all the overlapping courses (for example, Research Methods or Strategy repeated multiple times), and then not count those credits again?
• In other words, do the 270 credits really matter, or would they be reduced down just like my bundled programs, since the overlaps wouldn’t be recognized more than once?

Right now I have 153 credits from ECE, but I know many of those include duplicate/overlapping coursework.



Do overlapping courses across multiple master’s programs still “count” in transfer/credit recognition, or are they only recognized once?

Would love to hear from anyone who has submitted multiple similar master’s to ECE and then tried to transfer or actually use those credits in a U.S. university.

[huiwh1998]

Here is my current ECE course-by-course evaluation, and I wanted to ask for clarification.

Current Evaluation:

• Global Master (bundled) → 45 credits
  
• Three dual masters → 36 credits each
  
• Total = 153 credits
  
• All counted as bachelor-equivalents
  

What if I had done it differently?

• Instead of the Global Master, I could have taken my Global MBA individually, which includes:
  • MBA – Master of Business Administration
    
  • Master in Big Data and Business Intelligence
    
  • Master in Project Management
    
  • Diploma of Specialization in Innovation and Project Management
    
• Instead of the 3 dual masters, I could have taken 6 individual masters.
  

That would have been 9 separate masters at $129 each, totaling $1,161.
Costs I actually paid:

• Three dual masters → $349 each × 3 = $1,047
  
• Global Master → $649
  
• Total = $1,696
  

So in comparison, paying individually for 9 masters at $129 each would have cost $1,161, which is $535 less than what I actually paid for the bundled and dual programs.

Questions:

• Would I have gotten 9 U.S. bachelor-equivalents instead of 4?
  
• Would I have benefited from doing them individually, or would ECE still have counted overlapping courses and given roughly the same total credits?
  

I’m trying to figure out if paying for dual/bundled programs reduced my potential credit recognition.

I get what you are saying and indeed they counted the bundled degrees differently, you would have had more credits if you weren't bundled.

Here is an live example, I completed a dual masters BUT the degrees were not processed as such, they were two separate Masters.  Instead of getting like you got 36 credits for a dual degree I had 2 individual degrees, which I submitted to ECE, they came back with 30 credits EACH.  I think all individual Masters are treated at 30 credits each, in your case nothing you can do as yours were bundled.

I’m trying to understand how ECE handles multiple master’s programs when there are overlaps.

Let’s say instead of bundled/dual programs, I had completed 9 separate master’s diplomas. From what I’ve seen, ECE often evaluates each master’s at around 30 U.S. credits, so on paper that could add up to 270 credits.

Here’s my concern:
• When a U.S. school actually tries to use those credits for undergraduate/bachelor purposes, will they look at the transcripts, see all the overlapping courses (for example, Research Methods or Strategy repeated multiple times), and then not count those credits again?
• In other words, do the 270 credits really matter, or would they be reduced down just like my bundled programs, since the overlaps wouldn’t be recognized more than once?

Right now I have 153 credits from ECE, but I know many of those include duplicate/overlapping coursework.



Do overlapping courses across multiple master’s programs still “count” in transfer/credit recognition, or are they only recognized once?

Would love to hear from anyone who has submitted multiple similar master’s to ECE and then tried to transfer or actually use those credits in a U.S. university.

Back then, ENEB’s dual master was actually two separate programs, each with 60 ECTS. But now they’ve merged it into one combined program with 72 ECTS total. As for how U.S. schools see it, places like Walden are pretty chill and will probably accept it for their master’s. I don't think they even have a GPA requirement, so you're good with a bachelor's degree and all "S" grades. But I wouldn’t expect the same treatment from more selective or rigorous universities.

If you want a real bachelors, go with TESU. Someone I believe from the old ENEB Master Thread, has sent their ECE evaluation to TESU for their "second bachelors" for a BA LS degree, who has to complete 30-ish credits for graduation.

And yes, you will have 9 bachelor's degrees. As ridiculous as it may sound, I am pretty sure you do indeed have 9 bachelor's degrees if you have separated them. But I don't think it's gonna be easy with the recent dual masters bundle thing...

[irvineboy]

Back then, ENEB’s dual master was actually two separate programs, each with 60 ECTS. But now they’ve merged it into one combined program with 72 ECTS total. As for how U.S. schools see it, places like Walden are pretty chill and will probably accept it for their master’s. I don't think they even have a GPA requirement, so you're good with a bachelor's degree and all "S" grades. But I wouldn’t expect the same treatment from more selective or rigorous universities.

If you want a real bachelors, go with TESU. Someone I believe from the old ENEB Master Thread, has sent their ECE evaluation to TESU for their "second bachelors" for a BA LS degree, who has to complete 30-ish credits for graduation.

And yes, you will have 9 bachelor's degrees. As ridiculous as it may sound, I am pretty sure you do indeed have 9 bachelor's degrees if you have separated them. But I don't think it's gonna be easy with the recent dual masters bundle...

100% right. That's why some people have a dual MBA/MA but separate degrees and ECE will see it as that 30 and 30, the newer dual degrees are combined so ECE sees it differently. 

The big problem now is ECE will evaluate without converting the Spanish GPA to US equivalent and are giving "S" grades not sure why this is at all when it's clear, the grading system is different but there. They should just put the equiv GPA somewhere!  Anyone has a work around for this other than IEE course by course?

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

According to ECE, It’s not that they don’t recognize the Spanish 1-10 grading scale. ECE is only considering the courses on the back of the Ui1 Diploma, and as the Diploma has no grades, ECE gives the “S” for satisfactory. ECE simply doesn't count the ENEB transcripts.

When ECE provides ENEB students, a Course-by-Course report with an "S" for satisfactory grades, they are doing it on the basis of the Ui1 Diploma.  
If Ui1 simply put grades on the back of the Diploma, ECE would be fine with providing a GPA.

I will find out next month, if the UNISEB route helps fix this. 

Let’s see if a “UNISEB” transcript helps in any way with ECE.

I’ll keep you posted

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Do overlapping courses across multiple master’s programs still “count” in transfer/credit recognition, or are they only recognized once?

Would love to hear from anyone who has submitted multiple similar master’s to ECE and then tried to transfer or actually use those credits in a U.S. university.

@JC39 - Totally appreciate your concern. Let's ask this question. Suppose you are a registrar at an accredited university, and an applicant wants to transfer credits.  
You see that they have taken a single course from the same institution, which has counted towards 9 degrees.  

Would you provide credit for that one course, 9 times?

It could have been the same subject from 9 different institutions, would you give credit for that course subject, 9 times?

Bottom line is that you did great and got many credits

[artem]

This looks promising. I am looking for a doctorate that’s 10k pricing…..

DBA from UpGrad accepts ENEB and costs $12K
DBA from GreatLearning accepts ENEB and costs $12K and even includes an additional PG certificate (from UT!) and a Master's degree

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I’m trying to understand how ECE handles multiple master’s programs when there are overlaps.

Let’s say instead of bundled/dual programs, I had completed 9 separate master’s diplomas. From what I’ve seen, ECE often evaluates each master’s at around 30 U.S. credits, so on paper that could add up to 270 credits.

Here’s my concern:
• When a U.S. school actually tries to use those credits for undergraduate/bachelor purposes, will they look at the transcripts, see all the overlapping courses (for example, Research Methods or Strategy repeated multiple times), and then not count those credits again?
• In other words, do the 270 credits really matter, or would they be reduced down just like my bundled programs, since the overlaps wouldn’t be recognized more than once?

Right now I have 153 credits from ECE, but I know many of those include duplicate/overlapping coursework.



Do overlapping courses across multiple master’s programs still “count” in transfer/credit recognition, or are they only recognized once?

Would love to hear from anyone who has submitted multiple similar master’s to ECE and then tried to transfer or actually use those credits in a U.S. university.

In most cases, credits from completed degrees are not transferable. No matter whether you have 150 or 270 credits in bachelor's degrees.
You have to find a school that will accept them.

[Kalas]

DBA from UpGrad accepts ENEB and costs $12K
DBA from GreatLearning accepts ENEB and costs $12K and even includes an additional PG certificate (from UT!) and a Master's degree

Not anymore and not if you're American.

The UpGrad Edgewood DBA has increased to $22.5k for Americans and $13.5k for everyone else.
The GreatLearning Walsh College DBA program explicitly forbids Americans from enrolling now. Source: I tried to start process yesterday to see what kind of payment plan could be worked out and the website told to me to blow it out my American ass.

Could you click the button with a VPN? Probably. Then how will you pay? Credit card, bank draft and commonly accepted forms of payment will show the money is coming from the US. Even if you use an overseas mail drop with forwarding for a mailing address, what is your home address? Why do you have an American phone number? Why is there no permanent resident visa for another country in your American passport if you don't live in America? Yes, you can get all of these boxes checked by spending enough money, but at that point you're spending way more to pretend to be a foreigner than you are for the degree.

[artem]

DBA from UpGrad accepts ENEB and costs $12K
DBA from GreatLearning accepts ENEB and costs $12K and even includes an additional PG certificate (from UT!) and a Master's degree

Not anymore and not if you're American.

The UpGrad Edgewood DBA has increased to $22.5k for Americans and $13.5k for everyone else.
The GreatLearning Walsh College DBA program explicitly forbids Americans from enrolling now. Source: I tried to start process yesterday to see what kind of payment plan could be worked out and the website told to me to blow it out my American ass.

Could you click the button with a VPN? Probably. Then how will you pay? Credit card, bank draft and commonly accepted forms of payment will show the money is coming from the US. Even if you use an overseas mail drop with forwarding for a mailing address, what is your home address? Why do you have an American phone number? Why is there no permanent resident visa for another country in your American passport if you don't live in America? Yes, you can get all of these boxes checked by spending enough money, but at that point you're spending way more to pretend to be a foreigner than you are for the degree.

Well, all that's left is a PhDs from Woolf for 5000 or for free if you're smart and talented.

[JylloBenson]

Hello! Im very interested in the Unimarconi Master in collab with ENEB!

I enrolled and finish my MBA - MBA AI for Business with ENEB.

But Unimarconi needs a transcript of a previous degree.

If I use validential.com with my master and obtain a US validation like "Master in Business Administration" you think that can I get enrolled in the UniMarconi Program???

Or maybe I need a workaround with Sophia, TESU and so on? 

Any advice?

[icecubetr]

A guy in my class is pursuing a PhD at this Malaysian university together with his UoPeople MBA: https://globalnxt.edu.my/tuition-fees