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Is there any college that will give letter grades for transferred study.com courses?
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Plus, I imagine the current standard makes universities more money than if everything were simple. There is much less incentive for people to start at a community college, let alone use alternate credits, if there is a good chance that you'll just have to redo those same classes when you move on to a 4-year degree.
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(12-13-2020, 07:57 AM)innen_oda Wrote:
(12-13-2020, 07:28 AM)Seagull Wrote: Why can't a standard for all credits be created so there is no more confusion.

Because there's no financial/business incentive to do so, and government-initiated action is an anathema to the American way.

In all seriousness, the current status quo benefits individual universities, as it allows them to retain most of the power and decision-making. The only way this would change is if universities unanimously agreed to relinquish that control to an external body, which I can't see happening.
It is a capitalistic market, all this only drives students and future job seekers to better options overseas.

European colleges are much cheaper even for international students.
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(12-13-2020, 10:02 AM)Seagull Wrote: It is a capitalistic market, all this only drives students and future job seekers to better options overseas.

I doubt it. The vast majority of universities in countries most Americans would be willing to move to, have already factored this in to their tuition costs (Australia and the UK are the first two which come to mind).
To be honest, I know of very few Americans driven overseas due to the cost of university. Of the ones who have moved overseas, they've either piggybacked on a partner's job/military transfer, or did their undergrad in the US and then moved abroad to one of the 'approved' nations. Or they're doing the TEFL thing for a few years - something native English speakers of all nations do, regardless of uni costs.

As for the 'non-approved' countries (so: the ones with bad PR), even if you do consider the small percentage of Americans willing to move to them, you have to account for the cost of a visa (not just money, but time), the mental costs of being in a new country, and not being able to live at home while you study. Plus potential language issues, not having a social network to help find work or housing, and the necessary savings to get you by until you get settled.

I think your perception of this capitalistic market is slightly idealised, and ignores a lot of externalities of studying overseas, beyond the pure cost of tuition.
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(12-13-2020, 10:02 AM)Seagull Wrote:
(12-13-2020, 07:57 AM)innen_oda Wrote:
(12-13-2020, 07:28 AM)Seagull Wrote: Why can't a standard for all credits be created so there is no more confusion.

Because there's no financial/business incentive to do so, and government-initiated action is an anathema to the American way.

In all seriousness, the current status quo benefits individual universities, as it allows them to retain most of the power and decision-making. The only way this would change is if universities unanimously agreed to relinquish that control to an external body, which I can't see happening.
It is a capitalistic market, all this only drives students and future job seekers to better options overseas.

European colleges are much cheaper even for international students.

I know of nobody who went to a European college because it was cheaper.

But, I know MANY people who to did other thing to cut costs - went to a CC first,; took DE in high school; took AP courses/exams; took CLEP and DSST exams; chose less expensive colleges; worked to get scholarships; worked and saved before going to college; got tuition reimbursement from their job; did not go to college at all.  Lots of options for people who can't afford a 4yr university straight out of high school.
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(12-13-2020, 12:31 PM)dfrecore Wrote: I know of nobody who went to a European college because it was cheaper.

But, I know MANY people who to did other thing to cut costs - went to a CC first,; took DE in high school; took AP courses/exams; took CLEP and DSST exams; chose less expensive colleges; worked to get scholarships; worked and saved before going to college; got tuition reimbursement from their job; did not go to college at all.  Lots of options for people who can't afford a 4yr university straight out of high school.

Exactly. This forum is a testament to the lengths some of us will go to, to get a US bachelor degree without incurring massive debt.
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(12-13-2020, 07:28 AM)Seagull Wrote: Why can't a standard for all credits be created so there is no more confusion.

Because there is a difference between RA credit and ACE credit. ACE credit is not accepted by all schools. RA credit is accepted by all schools. Now that doesn't mean that all of your credits will transfer as the credits need to fit into the degree program.
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Nomaduser, If you really want external GPA (yes, there's a difference between that and internal GPA), COSC should still offer graded credits on StraighterLine and Study.com courses if it goes directly to them through their current transcript service. There really isn't a point as other schools would know this is an external GPA, it won't really reflect anywhere, as I think the transcript from COSC will show it's transferred credit.
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Thanks, I will ask COSC about it. I'm curious how much they will charge lol
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You can try it for FREE! PM me for an application waiver fee and send your transcripts in through Sophia, Study.com, StraighterLine, or whatever you currently have. They use the Parchment service, so hopefully, it is free! Here's the site: https://acorn.charteroak.edu/ICS/Parchme...ign-On.jnz
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(12-13-2020, 03:26 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Nomaduser, If you really want external GPA (yes, there's a difference between that and internal GPA), COSC should still offer graded credits on StraighterLine and Study.com courses if it goes directly to them through their current transcript service.  There really isn't a point as other schools would know this is an external GPA, it won't really reflect anywhere, as I think the transcript from COSC will show it's transferred credit.

I think COSC did away with this some time ago.
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