Need some advice

[saraholson]

For either of these, I am not entirely certain TESU will let you keep your catalog, meaning they would add the new cornerstone to your courses, adding quite a bit of cost.  That needs to be factored in.

Thank you dfrecore.. you are right, I talked to TESU and if i switch to a liberal studies degree I cannot keep my catalog. So I guess that means I am stuck. I was already not sure how to pay for the capstone tuition and residency fee. I definitely can't pay for another cornerstone.

I guess I have to think about what to do now. I will clean up my spreadsheets.

I know everyone tells me macro, micro and finance are so easy, when they are trying to convince me to keep on with the BSBA. But to me they aren't easy at all. I just simply can't memorize the formulas and concepts and do all the calculations. I still can't even understand the curve graphs in economics in spite of watching many youtube videos.

[allvia]

If you're still set on a BALS/BSLS path, why not apply to COSC and see where you fall.  They are cheaper than TESU at this time as well.

[davewill]

Would the BS in Organization Leadership or Professional Studies be a possibility? Also being in the School Of Business And Management , they might not trigger the change in catalog. They should also make better use of your existing credits. However, I'm not sure how many of the credits are available cheaply.

https://www.tesu.edu/business/bsol

https://www.tesu.edu/business/bsps/index

[dfrecore]

Would the BS in Organization Leadership or Professional Studies be a possibility? Also being in the School Of Business And Management , they might not trigger the change in catalog. They should also make better use of your existing credits. However, I'm not sure how many of the credits are available cheaply.

https://www.tesu.edu/business/bsol

https://www.tesu.edu/business/bsps/index

Those are good options davewill!  Always the thinker over there.

If saraholson checks with TESU about the catalog, I will look at the degree plans and see how they are looking for cost.

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For either of these, I am not entirely certain TESU will let you keep your catalog, meaning they would add the new cornerstone to your courses, adding quite a bit of cost.  That needs to be factored in.

Thank you dfrecore.. you are right, I talked to TESU and if i switch to a liberal studies degree I cannot keep my catalog. So I guess that means I am stuck. I was already not sure how to pay for the capstone tuition and residency fee. I definitely can't pay for another cornerstone.

I guess I have to think about what to do now. I will clean up my spreadsheets.

I know everyone tells me macro, micro and finance are so easy, when they are trying to convince me to keep on with the BSBA. But to me they aren't easy at all. I just simply can't memorize the formulas and concepts and do all the calculations. I still can't even understand the curve graphs in economics in spite of watching many youtube videos.

Macro, micro and finance are definitely NOT "easy" for everyone, those were some of my hardest classes.  Let's not even talk about Statistics, which I put off taking after not being able to finish twice (ALEKS and SL), and it was literally my very last course to complete - and I finally did it AFTER my capstone.  So I feel your pain.

Let's try to find another route, people have good suggestions here.

[Ideas]

I've posted on many threads telling people to avoid business because of macro, micro, statistics, and the 2 basic accounting courses. If they would struggle with those subjects. I think you should switch away from that degree.

TESU will let you see the new degree requirements (and what you have left) without giving up your old locked-in degree. Just be sure that they know you're considering it, and that you don't want to switch/give up the old one yet.

[dfrecore]

So the BSOL is out, there are required courses that you can't get cheaply. BUT, the BSPS with an Undergrad Certificate in Organizational Leadership IS available. . It looks to me like you can get everything at Study.com for sure, probably Davar and Coopersmith will have some of the courses as well. You need 7 courses from the Professional Career Track (Study.com has 9 to choose from, 8 of which are UL), and then 4 additional courses from the Org Leadership cert.

I'm also going to ask TESU if some of the courses you've completed will work even though they're not listed: COM 120: Presentation Skills in the Work Place and BUS 113: Business Communication should work in the COMM area shouldn't they?? And BUS 106: Human Resource Management and BUS 306: Strategic Human Resources Management should work in LEADERSHIP or ORGANIZATIONAL shouldn't they?? It's certainly worth a shot - you lose nothing by asking, and gain as much as 12cr that way, so I'd ask.

Of course this is predicated on not having to change your catalog...

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I added it up, and to make the switch to COSC, even taking a lab, will be less money and fewer courses than switching to the BSPS.

BSPS: 11 courses @ $100 each = $1100, Capstone, Res. Waiver & Grad fees of $4235. Total $4335
COSC: 6 courses @ $100 each + Bio w/Lab of $140 = $740. Cornerstone, capstone, student services fee x 2, tech fee x2, grad fee = $3183. Total $3923

I'd go with COSC, I think you'll find it much easier to deal with than TESU, they are supposed to have great customer service.

EDIT TO ADD: I estimated courses at $100 each, I think you may be able to find some for less.

[saraholson]

The idea of COSC is pretty appealing, thank you Dfrecore for that price break down. Are you talking about their General Studies degree? I looked at their website and it doesn't mention whether it's a BA or a BS. And do I have to pick a concentration? Or is there an option without a concentration? Thank you all for your help, I am so grateful.

[dfrecore]

The idea of COSC is pretty appealing, thank you Dfrecore for that price break down. Are you talking about their General Studies degree? I looked at their website and it doesn't mention whether it's a BA or a BS. And do I have to pick a concentration? Or is there an option without a concentration? Thank you all for your help, I am so grateful.

For COSC, you can choose a BALS (90cr Liberal Arts, 30cr non-LA or "free electives") or BSLS (60cr Liberal Arts, 60cr non-LA or "free electives").

You MUST choose a concentration (1-3 areas):
https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/curre...tudies.php
https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/curre...tudies.php

Since you have a lot of business courses already, you'd want a BSLS, and you'd choose the individualized studies plan so you could use those, plus an additional concentration.

[saraholson]

The idea of COSC is pretty appealing, thank you Dfrecore for that price break down. Are you talking about their General Studies degree? I looked at their website and it doesn't mention whether it's a BA or a BS. And do I have to pick a concentration? Or is there an option without a concentration? Thank you all for your help, I am so grateful.

For COSC, you can choose a BALS (90cr Liberal Arts, 30cr non-LA or "free electives") or BSLS (60cr Liberal Arts, 60cr non-LA or "free electives").

You MUST choose a concentration (1-3 areas):
https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/curre...tudies.php
https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/curre...tudies.php

Since you have a lot of business courses already, you'd want a BSLS, and you'd choose the individualized studies plan so you could use those, plus an additional concentration.

Thank you. I wonder why this isn't on their main website. If I go on the main site under degree plans, it only shows general studies and then the concentrations. Edit: It looks like you have to be 'approved' for them and have some justification for your specific combination of credits. Hmmm.

[bjcheung77]

Just an FYI and a warning, even if you do change your degree plan or a degree provider, you will still be stuck with a capstone. If you review Dfrecore's post, it took a while for her to get her last course, the STATS - it's a killer for some (including me - no laughing matter here, it took me 5 tries and 3 months to get that baby in the bag!).

I mean, I tried all 3 ALEKS courses for 3 months and couldn't get that final credit. I then took the StraighterLine Intro to Stats, and was doing pretty well, until the end, finished with a 65%. Pooped as I was, I trucked on with SL Business Stats, finished it with an 85%. If I failed that, I would have taken Study.com Stats - I don't let anything stop me.

Anyways, to recap what I mentioned in a previous post above. If you take a long weekend or several week nights, you can use SL to finish a few of the remaining business courses. They are all open book finals, you can't "fail them", spend time finding the answers and complete the final exams, there are no assignments. I won't matter if you "fully grasp" the info as you will be continuously learning and upgrading in the workplace.

Knowledge of those courses may not come now, in a month, in a year, you will get to know it sooner or later, and it's just a few courses you may not master - it's just one section of business that may be hard for you, but others you may excel in. Finish the BSBA degree with a General Management concentration. Paying for it "now" would reap the ROI in the future, don't wait or hesitate, do it now.