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Other BSBA Programs allow max alternative credit?
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Besides the Big 3, which other online Bachelor's of Biz Admin programs allow lots of alternative credit (CLEP, DSST, SDC)?

And would it be easier to do this with a typical university if I had an Associate's from one of the BIG 3 first? (So that I could bring in an AS and transfer in alt credit courses)

Please share what you know.


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WGU let's you transfer in ~90 credits. A few of the other competency based programs have similar credit transfer policies but people here haven't tried them out yet.
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(06-27-2019, 12:36 AM)SCYankee Wrote: Besides the Big 3, which other online Bachelor's of Biz Admin programs allow lots of alternative credit (CLEP, DSST, SDC)?

And would it be easier to do this with a typical university if I had an Associate's from one of the BIG 3 first? (So that I could bring in an AS and transfer in alt credit courses)

The reason the Big 3 are called the Big 3 is because they are extremely alternate credit friendly and allow you to transfer in up to 114 (or 117) credits towards their degrees. Each school can choose for themselves whether to accept transfer credits and how many. Most colleges allow between 30-60 transfer credits. The highest will allow up to 90 credits (like WGU). This assumes they are of an accepted accreditation (RA -> RA or NA/RA -> NA).

As for working with a more traditional university, unless it is a college that has an articulation agreement for associate degrees from the school you earned your AA, there is no guarantee that an AA from any college will be accepted as a block transfer in to meet requirements at any other college. More likely the courses will be evaluated individually to see where they fit into the program at the new school, up to whatever their allowance is for credit transfers. As for alternative credits, few colleges accept them at all. If they do, they will typically accept a limited number of AP/CLEP credits. If they accept ACE credits then that opens the door to more options, but it will probably be limited to 30 credits or so.

TL;DR if you want to transfer in the majority of your degree as alternative credits, the best options are the big 3. If you're happy with transferring in 60-90 alternative credits then your options expand to include schools like WGU or NAU (which accepts up to 64 ACE credits). Beyond that, most schools don't accept much in the way of alternative credits; if they accept them at all it is usually around 30.
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I have a list of schools that will take 90cr, but they will all cost upwards of $10k; so if you're looking at a BSBA, there's no sense looking at something MORE expensive than the Big 3 or WGU.
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(06-27-2019, 12:36 AM)SCYankee Wrote: Besides the Big 3, which other online Bachelor's of Biz Admin programs allow lots of alternative credit (CLEP, DSST, SDC)?

And would it be easier to do this with a typical university if I had an Associate's from one of the BIG 3 first? (So that I could bring in an AS and transfer in alt credit courses)

Please share what you know.


Thanks.

West Virginia University RBA degree allows ACE credits - but you must complete 24 credits at WV online schools - such as WVROCKS courses which are $669 per course.  2 UL courses need to be completed at WVU which are about $1000 each.

A trick with them, although it no longer works, you were able to use all 24 ALEKS credits and ACTFL English language exam for something like 50+ credits.  But neither are fully ACE approved anymore.  

No math is a benefit with this degree.

https://rba.wvu.edu/
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(06-27-2019, 02:18 AM)videogamesrock Wrote:
(06-27-2019, 12:36 AM)SCYankee Wrote: Besides the Big 3, which other online Bachelor's of Biz Admin programs allow lots of alternative credit (CLEP, DSST, SDC)?

And would it be easier to do this with a typical university if I had an Associate's from one of the BIG 3 first? (So that I could bring in an AS and transfer in alt credit courses)

Please share what you know.


Thanks.

West Virginia University RBA degree allows ACE credits - but you must complete 24 credits at WV online schools - such as WVROCKS courses which are $669 per course.  2 UL courses need to be completed at WVU which are about $1000 each.

A trick with them, although it no longer works, you were able to use all 24 ALEKS credits and ACTFL English language exam for something like 50+ credits.  But neither are fully ACE approved anymore.  

No math is a benefit with this degree.

https://rba.wvu.edu/

I'm looking into one RBA program from Marshall but the tuition increased for the fall. It's almost $800 now per class for WVRocks and some of the courses require like 4-8 books so I don't know about the level of commitment yet. 

One other option is University of Maine PI YourPace.  I think they are cool and flexible and seem to take a bunch of alternative credit. They are competency based and take fafsa too, no books needed.
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(06-27-2019, 02:37 AM)Stoic Wrote:
(06-27-2019, 02:18 AM)videogamesrock Wrote:
(06-27-2019, 12:36 AM)SCYankee Wrote: Besides the Big 3, which other online Bachelor's of Biz Admin programs allow lots of alternative credit (CLEP, DSST, SDC)?

And would it be easier to do this with a typical university if I had an Associate's from one of the BIG 3 first? (So that I could bring in an AS and transfer in alt credit courses)

Please share what you know.


Thanks.

West Virginia University RBA degree allows ACE credits - but you must complete 24 credits at WV online schools - such as WVROCKS courses which are $669 per course.  2 UL courses need to be completed at WVU which are about $1000 each.

A trick with them, although it no longer works, you were able to use all 24 ALEKS credits and ACTFL English language exam for something like 50+ credits.  But neither are fully ACE approved anymore.  

No math is a benefit with this degree.

https://rba.wvu.edu/

I'm looking into one RBA program from Marshall but the tuition increased for the fall. It's almost $800 now per class for WVRocks and some of the courses require like 4-8 books so I don't know about the level of commitment yet. 

One other option is University of Maine PI YourPace.  I think they are cool and flexible and seem to take a bunch of alternative credit. They are competency based and take fafsa too, no books needed.

That’s a bummer regarding tuition.
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(06-27-2019, 02:39 AM)videogamesrock Wrote:
(06-27-2019, 02:37 AM)Stoic Wrote:
(06-27-2019, 02:18 AM)videogamesrock Wrote:
(06-27-2019, 12:36 AM)SCYankee Wrote: Besides the Big 3, which other online Bachelor's of Biz Admin programs allow lots of alternative credit (CLEP, DSST, SDC)?

And would it be easier to do this with a typical university if I had an Associate's from one of the BIG 3 first? (So that I could bring in an AS and transfer in alt credit courses)

Please share what you know.


Thanks.

West Virginia University RBA degree allows ACE credits - but you must complete 24 credits at WV online schools - such as WVROCKS courses which are $669 per course.  2 UL courses need to be completed at WVU which are about $1000 each.

A trick with them, although it no longer works, you were able to use all 24 ALEKS credits and ACTFL English language exam for something like 50+ credits.  But neither are fully ACE approved anymore.  

No math is a benefit with this degree.

https://rba.wvu.edu/

I'm looking into one RBA program from Marshall but the tuition increased for the fall. It's almost $800 now per class for WVRocks and some of the courses require like 4-8 books so I don't know about the level of commitment yet. 

One other option is University of Maine PI YourPace.  I think they are cool and flexible and seem to take a bunch of alternative credit. They are competency based and take fafsa too, no books needed.

That’s a bummer regarding tuition.
I agree. The Pell is at about $6,190 (I think) now per year and a lot of these colleges are setting up their tuition to pace it.  As it stands if you take 24 credits in one year from WVRocks you'll come out at about $6,000 or a bit more. I forgot the exact calculations, but it's cutting it super close.
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As a father of four, everything seems expensive, even Liberty's decreased rate for veterans ($250 per credit). A few others offer the same, such as Purdue Global.

But, the Pell grant can be used? And it's $6000+? Wouldn't that make any program free that is within that price range?
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An Associates itself especially it's earned with alternative credit, doesn't do much for transfering unless it's part of an articulation agreement.

I have an Associates and for me if I go to schools in my home state whether it be in person or online, depending on the school all or almost all of my gen eds are done. This is because I satisfied a statewide transfer agreement. But once I started looking at out of state schools, my associates does nothing. One school I applied to I only had half the gen eds done, even though I had associates it didn't matter. The other thing an Associates is good for is 2+2 or 3+1 agreements. Now some of those can out of state as well.

I don't think somehow getting an associates at the big is  worth the cost. My local CC'S are under $100 a credit hour and only require 15 credits taken with them. They accept CLEP and DSST generously. So one could easily get an Associates from them way cheaper than the big 3. If you really want an Associates look at your local CC, if you live in California it's real cheap.

Generally speaking, an Associates degree isn't necessary if you set on getting a Bachelor's and doesn't help with transfering unless it's in state or an articulation agreement. An Associates made up of mostly alternative credits, although a real degree won't provided much in way of transfers at most Universities.


Most schools require 30-60 credits be taken from their school. The elite schools require 60. And usually everyone else requires 30, that's what makes the big 3 different they require 3-6. Look around it probably wouldn't be took hard to find a school that you could transfer in 90 credits via CC, clep, dsst, portfolio (maybe ace and/or nccrs if you are lucky) and then do 30 credits at the school.

SNHU probably has something. They are pretty good with alternative credit.

CSU global probably does as well. They are partners with many of the alternative credit sites and they have their own self study courses as well.

I think Baker College in Michigan does and they are online too. Someone on this fourm did Baker and they accept straighterline and ALEKS.

If you need ideas look at the partner sites for straighterline, study.com, etc.

If a school is there that usually means they have good transfer policies.
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