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Physics GRE Subject Test Does Not Predict PhD Completion
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A research project's results indicate that the physics GRE does not predict completion of a PhD in physics and might hurt diversity. 

https://m.phys.org/news/2019-01-gre-stud...rsity.html
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This is absolutely no surprise whatsoever. Standardized tests are simply the lazy way to cull the herd.
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I agree. A standardized exam is so different.
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I'm not sure whether any graduate admission test viewed in isolation predicts graduation.

The question is whether the admissions test improves the overall decision model.  We took a close look at long-term GMAT data for my institution some years ago. The GMAT alone was not predictive of graduation.  However we got better better results when combined with other factors (overall gpa, major gpa, written statement, etc.) relative to just using the other factors. For the stats minded, think F-statistic.,
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So true! That any standardized exam is held up as a predictor of anything other than future standardized exam success is nonsense, but that's what they have- so that's what they use, and they've used it for so long that they believe it measures something.
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This is a great article. I think GPA might come under question next! And grit might probably be a greater determinant of academic success.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.busines...-iq-2013-5
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(01-31-2019, 10:36 AM)Supermind Wrote: This is a great article. I think GPA might come under question next! And grit might probably be a greater determinant of academic success.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.busines...-iq-2013-5

According to this article, GPA, alone, is a better predictor than the physics subject test, alone. GPA is often reflective of perseverance, good work habits, and good study skills. There are a lot of people of average intelligence who have managed to get high GPAs due to their work ethic. On the other hand, there are a lot of people with high IQs who have bad grades due to lack of effort.
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(01-31-2019, 10:36 AM)Supermind Wrote: This is a great article. I think GPA might come under question next! And grit might probably be a greater determinant of academic success.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.busines...-iq-2013-5

I keep preaching it. You dont have to be the smartest crab in the barrel. You just need balls and grit.
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(01-31-2019, 10:36 AM)Supermind Wrote: This is a great article. I think GPA might come under question next! And grit might probably be a greater determinant of academic success.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.busines...-iq-2013-5

Grit is pretty much impossible to judge though.  Totally subjective.
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(02-01-2019, 03:12 AM)dfrecore Wrote:
(01-31-2019, 10:36 AM)Supermind Wrote: This is a great article. I think GPA might come under question next! And grit might probably be a greater determinant of academic success.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.busines...-iq-2013-5

Grit is pretty much impossible to judge though.  Totally subjective.

Well, Martin Seligman’s positive psychology is almost entirely based on grit. And he has identified some parameters for it. There is actually a 5-part positive psychology course being offered on coursera. One of my friends is currently taking that course, and she is all praise for it. I plan to take it at some stage.
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