TESU BA CS + BS BA Double Bachelor planning help

[boblax]

Following my previous introduction post (https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...ated-field) about doing a computer science related bachelor at TESU, I've been following the advice given and settled on a BA CS + BS BA double bachelor to match my background as a software dev as well as my interest in business finance.

I've started putting up together a plan: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing

There are still a few unknowns that I could use some advice on.
The current plan is to stat with the BA CS, and take most of the BS BA area of study / professional business requirements as free electives. Then when I'm done with BA CS I should just have a couple more classes (between 5 and 10) to complete the BS BA.

Money is not too much of an issue and I would rather go for convenience / speed which is why I'm aiming to take 2 terms at TESU, the first one will include the cornerstone, BACS capstone, as well as 3+ courses, and a second term to get the BS BA capstone + a few additional courses if required.

There are a few elements I'm still unsure about:
1/ In Gen Ed intellectual and practical skills, is it mandatory to complete one public speaking and one writing course or not? I'm not great in either and would much rather get rid of one of them to take something like MAT-1050-TE applied liberal arts mathematics which would give me 3 RA credits and would be quite easy and quick to complete.
2/ What are the capstones about, and how hard are they?
3/ Same question for the cornerstone
4/ Can CIS-1070 be used for both the professional business requirements in BS BA as well as BA CS computer science elective? I just checked the TECEP and besides some questions about Microsoft software which I'm not familiar with (excel, word and so on), the rest is quite easy for me so would it be smarter to just do the TECEP instead of taking the course with the TESU ePack thing?
5/ Is there any information on FDR-4400 fundraising for nonprofit available somewhere? Haven't seen any equivalence on sophia / study.
6/ Same question about BUS-2100 Quantitative skills for business? Maybe Calculus from BA CS can be used or is it a specific course?
6/ With the current plan I have 12 RA credits for the BS BA and 12 RA credits for the BA CS. A lot of electives can be taken from the BS BA into the BA CS so getting the 30 here should be easy, however only 15 credits from free electives can be taken into the BS BA meaning I would need all these electives to be from BA CS AoS / CS electives taken as RA credits. Any good recommendation for this?

[Mint Berry Crunch]

Following my previous introduction post (https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...ated-field) about doing a computer science related bachelor at TESU, I've been following the advice given and settled on a BA CS + BS BA double bachelor to match my background as a software dev as well as my interest in business finance.

I've started putting up together a plan: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing

There are still a few unknowns that I could use some advice on.
The current plan is to stat with the BA CS, and take most of the BS BA area of study / professional business requirements as free electives. Then when I'm done with BA CS I should just have a couple more classes (between 5 and 10) to complete the BS BA.

Money is not too much of an issue and I would rather go for convenience / speed which is why I'm aiming to take 2 terms at TESU, the first one will include the cornerstone, BACS capstone, as well as 3+ courses, and a second term to get the BS BA capstone + a few additional courses if required.

There are a few elements I'm still unsure about:
1/ In Gen Ed intellectual and practical skills, is it mandatory to complete one public speaking and one writing course or not? I'm not great in either and would much rather get rid of one of them to take something like MAT-1050-TE applied liberal arts mathematics which would give me 3 RA credits and would be quite easy and quick to complete.
2/ What are the capstones about, and how hard are they?
3/ Same question for the cornerstone
4/ Can CIS-1070 be used for both the professional business requirements in BS BA as well as BA CS computer science elective? I just checked the TECEP and besides some questions about Microsoft software which I'm not familiar with (excel, word and so on), the rest is quite easy for me so would it be smarter to just do the TECEP instead of taking the course with the TESU ePack thing?
5/ Is there any information on FDR-4400 fundraising for nonprofit available somewhere? Haven't seen any equivalence on sophia / study.
6/ Same question about BUS-2100 Quantitative skills for business? Maybe Calculus from BA CS can be used or is it a specific course?
6/ With the current plan I have 12 RA credits for the BS BA and 12 RA credits for the BA CS. A lot of electives can be taken from the BS BA into the BA CS so getting the 30 here should be easy, however only 15 credits from free electives can be taken into the BS BA meaning I would need all these electives to be from BA CS AoS / CS electives taken as RA credits. Any good recommendation for this?

Gonna be honest, its pretty difficult to read what you had in the Google Sheets. I would recommend starting off with Sophia and Study.com. Everything you need to know is in the transfer list. 

Sophia: https://tesu.sophia.org/

Study.com: https://study.com/college/school/thomas-...rsity.html

I would also recommend using Coursera to max out the total transfer credits and gain some courses towards TESU's IT/CS degrees.

Coursera: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Coursera

After that, send in all of your transcripts to TESU, they'll tell you whats missing, and from there, we'll have a better understanding of what you need. Just know, you can only submit transcripts twice while you're working your way to being admitted. Once you're enrolled, then its unlimited (to my understanding).

[boblax]

What is difficult to read? The name of the modules, font size, color or is it something else?

The issue about starting with Sophia / Study / Coursera without planning is that I might then end up with RA credits that do not overlap with both degrees for courses I'm not comfortable with and will struggle more if it's not open book. For instance I'd rather do Calculus than US History with proctoring because I'm just better at maths than I am at memorizing history.

[Sterberg3333]

Following my previous introduction post (https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...ated-field) about doing a computer science related bachelor at TESU, I've been following the advice given and settled on a BA CS + BS BA double bachelor to match my background as a software dev as well as my interest in business finance.

I've started putting up together a plan: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1...sp=sharing

There are still a few unknowns that I could use some advice on.
The current plan is to stat with the BA CS, and take most of the BS BA area of study / professional business requirements as free electives. Then when I'm done with BA CS I should just have a couple more classes (between 5 and 10) to complete the BS BA.

Money is not too much of an issue and I would rather go for convenience / speed which is why I'm aiming to take 2 terms at TESU, the first one will include the cornerstone, BACS capstone, as well as 3+ courses, and a second term to get the BS BA capstone + a few additional courses if required.

There are a few elements I'm still unsure about:
1/ In Gen Ed intellectual and practical skills, is it mandatory to complete one public speaking and one writing course or not? I'm not great in either and would much rather get rid of one of them to take something like MAT-1050-TE applied liberal arts mathematics which would give me 3 RA credits and would be quite easy and quick to complete.
2/ What are the capstones about, and how hard are they?
3/ Same question for the cornerstone
4/ Can CIS-1070 be used for both the professional business requirements in BS BA as well as BA CS computer science elective? I just checked the TECEP and besides some questions about Microsoft software which I'm not familiar with (excel, word and so on), the rest is quite easy for me so would it be smarter to just do the TECEP instead of taking the course with the TESU ePack thing?
5/ Is there any information on FDR-4400 fundraising for nonprofit available somewhere? Haven't seen any equivalence on sophia / study.
6/ Same question about BUS-2100 Quantitative skills for business? Maybe Calculus from BA CS can be used or is it a specific course?
6/ With the current plan I have 12 RA credits for the BS BA and 12 RA credits for the BA CS. A lot of electives can be taken from the BS BA into the BA CS so getting the 30 here should be easy, however only 15 credits from free electives can be taken into the BS BA meaning I would need all these electives to be from BA CS AoS / CS electives taken as RA credits. Any good recommendation for this?

1. It is mandatory to complete 2 writing cources and 1 oral communication courses, but I can recommend to take study.com communication 120, there is no any assignments, just short videos, I completed this course in two days. It satisfy this area and count as COM-2900 Presentational Speaking.
2. Business capstones requires writing long research paper and analysis of business situations.
3. Cornerstone is pretty easy
4. I believe not becasue 1 course can satisfy area only once. TECEP is much cheaper than ePach course but it is smart to take this course if you take 5 courses (flat rate)
5. You can take another upper level finance course instead of FDR-4400 to graduate. There is no ace alternatives.
6. For this course you can take CSM Learn, See more lab ($54 for 3 credit course). I am confident about it because I did it myself one month ago.
7. 24 credits for your second degree must be unique meaning that you must complete at least total 144 credits, I believe those credits may be taken into BS BA but I am not sure

[boblax]

Ok, adapted the plan to include your suggestions. I took a look at the TECEP and the writing for success ones look okay, ENC-1010 is very easy, ENC-1020 maybe slightly less straightforward so keeping my options open for either TECEP or just a course on sophia. Not to mention I'd rather avoid TECEPs in general as I've read working with ProctorU can be a nightmare.

Will take study.com Finance 301: Corporate Finance to transfer as FDR-4400 and CSM Learn to transfer as BUS-2100.

Capstones look quite time consuming so I will do 2 terms, the first one will be LIB capstone + cornerstone, second term will be BUS capstone. In the first term I will go for as many credits as possible in order to take advantage of the flat fee for 9+ credits. My strategy is to stack as many programming classes because they will be easy for me to complete, stuff like C, python, DSA, DB, etc. Only thing I'm worried is spreading myself too thin because LIB capstone will most likely take a lot of my time, and cornerstone some as well, plus I'll still have to quickly go through the material for other classes and do exams. So I think 15 credits is realistically the maximum I can aim for, maybe 18 if it's really piss easy and I have nothing to study beforehand.

So TESU first term: LIB-4970, SOS-1100, CIS-351, and maybe CIS-1070, not sure if taken as TECEP or not + ??? + ???
Second term: BUS-4210 + ???

When it comes to TECEPs, basically if I take flat rate I can just take the course for free instead of doing the TECEP which costs a bit of money. But, the TECEP is a quick exam whereas the course will require mid terms / finals + some homework as well? I'd rather pay a couple hundred bucks rather than spending a lot of time on different exams + homework tbh. Unless the course can be completed with a single exam sitting like a TECEP. Is that the case?

The last unknown in my plan are the computer science electives + natural science/maths electives for the BA CS, haven't found reliable ways to do them outside of TESU. For both plans I'm sitting at 15 RA credits currently so also need to find another 5 courses, between these electives or scientific knowledge gen ed.

[Jonathan Whatley]

So I think 15 credits is realistically the maximum I can aim for, maybe 18 if it's really piss easy and I have nothing to study beforehand.

You may be unable to register in 18. TESU’s Course Load policy stipulates that “Students are permitted to register for up to 16 credits at any one time. Overlapping more than 16 credits is not permitted including when a course is (or courses are) extended. Being registered for more than 16 concurrent credits at a time requires permission from an academic advisor.”

But, the TECEP is a quick exam whereas the course will require mid terms / finals + some homework as well? I'd rather pay a couple hundred bucks rather than spending a lot of time on different exams + homework tbh. Unless the course can be completed with a single exam sitting like a TECEP. Is that the case?

There are a few courses that can are assessed by a single exam sitting, and pass-fail, like a TECEP. These are e-Pack courses. How e-Pack Courses Work, List of e-Pack Courses.

The last unknown in my plan are the computer science electives + natural science/maths electives for the BA CS, haven't found reliable ways to do them outside of TESU.

The BACS plan on the DegreeForum Wiki has a few!

[boblax]

So I think 15 credits is realistically the maximum I can aim for, maybe 18 if it's really piss easy and I have nothing to study beforehand.

You may be unable to register in 18. TESU’s Course Load policy stipulates that “Students are permitted to register for up to 16 credits at any one time. Overlapping more than 16 credits is not permitted including when a course is (or courses are) extended. Being registered for more than 16 concurrent credits at a time requires permission from an academic advisor.”

But, the TECEP is a quick exam whereas the course will require mid terms / finals + some homework as well? I'd rather pay a couple hundred bucks rather than spending a lot of time on different exams + homework tbh. Unless the course can be completed with a single exam sitting like a TECEP. Is that the case?

There are a few courses that can are assessed by a single exam sitting, and pass-fail, like a TECEP. These are e-Pack courses. How e-Pack Courses Work, List of e-Pack Courses.

The last unknown in my plan are the computer science electives + natural science/maths electives for the BA CS, haven't found reliable ways to do them outside of TESU.

The BACS plan on the DegreeForum Wiki has a few!

Oh I wasn't aware, thanks, that's very helpful!

[Just_Bob]

So I think 15 credits is realistically the maximum I can aim for, maybe 18 if it's really piss easy and I have nothing to study beforehand.

You may be unable to register in 18. TESU’s Course Load policy stipulates that “Students are permitted to register for up to 16 credits at any one time. Overlapping more than 16 credits is not permitted including when a course is (or courses are) extended. Being registered for more than 16 concurrent credits at a time requires permission from an academic advisor.”

But, the TECEP is a quick exam whereas the course will require mid terms / finals + some homework as well? I'd rather pay a couple hundred bucks rather than spending a lot of time on different exams + homework tbh. Unless the course can be completed with a single exam sitting like a TECEP. Is that the case?

There are a few courses that can are assessed by a single exam sitting, and pass-fail, like a TECEP. These are e-Pack courses. How e-Pack Courses Work, List of e-Pack Courses.

The last unknown in my plan are the computer science electives + natural science/maths electives for the BA CS, haven't found reliable ways to do them outside of TESU.

The BACS plan on the DegreeForum Wiki has a few!

Oh I wasn't aware, thanks, that's very helpful!

FWIW - I am getting both my BACS and BSCIS conferred in March.  I followed the degree plan in the wiki and had no issues with overlap.  I only took 5 classes at TESU:  Software Engineering, Intro to Computer Programming, SOS-1110, LA Capstone, and BUS Capstone.

[boblax]

So I think 15 credits is realistically the maximum I can aim for, maybe 18 if it's really piss easy and I have nothing to study beforehand.

You may be unable to register in 18. TESU’s Course Load policy stipulates that “Students are permitted to register for up to 16 credits at any one time. Overlapping more than 16 credits is not permitted including when a course is (or courses are) extended. Being registered for more than 16 concurrent credits at a time requires permission from an academic advisor.”

But, the TECEP is a quick exam whereas the course will require mid terms / finals + some homework as well? I'd rather pay a couple hundred bucks rather than spending a lot of time on different exams + homework tbh. Unless the course can be completed with a single exam sitting like a TECEP. Is that the case?

There are a few courses that can are assessed by a single exam sitting, and pass-fail, like a TECEP. These are e-Pack courses. How e-Pack Courses Work, List of e-Pack Courses.

The last unknown in my plan are the computer science electives + natural science/maths electives for the BA CS, haven't found reliable ways to do them outside of TESU.

The BACS plan on the DegreeForum Wiki has a few!

Oh I wasn't aware, thanks, that's very helpful!

FWIW - I am getting both my BACS and BSCIS conferred in March.  I followed the degree plan in the wiki and had no issues with overlap.  I only took 5 classes at TESU:  Software Engineering, Intro to Computer Programming, SOS-1110, LA Capstone, and BUS Capstone.

How are you managing all of the courses together? Are you doing all of them at the same time? 2 captones already sound like a lot of work, not to mention the other 3 courses