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WGU MSCSIA course flexibility???
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Greetings,

I previously attended WGU and completed a lot of my undergrad work here under two different degree programs. I had approximately four different program mentors due to changing programs and general attrition. I found some of these program mentors did not much care how I scheduled my classes as long as the work was completed and some wanted me to follow their course selections without deviation. The latter is a problem for me as it's my money and I know how I learn best.

For those that may have enrolled in the Master of Science, Cyber Security and Information Assurance program, have you found the mentors to be flexible in terms of scheduling or have they adhered to the "standard path" as listed in the MSCSIA Program Guidebook?

This, unfortunately, will be a make or break decision for me in terms of this program.
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That's up to your mentor, and you can request a new mentor if the two of you don't get along well.
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(07-15-2019, 05:02 PM)jsd Wrote: That's up to your mentor, and you can request a new mentor if the two of you don't get along well.

Not a MSCSIA, but for the BSCSIA, my mentor was more than willing to work with me when I showed her I was willing to work towards my degree.
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(07-15-2019, 05:16 AM)ELSADDIQ Wrote: Greetings,

I previously attended WGU and completed a lot of my undergrad work here under two different degree programs. I had approximately four different program mentors due to changing programs and general attrition. I found some of these program mentors did not much care how I scheduled my classes as long as the work was completed and some wanted me to follow their course selections without deviation. The latter is a problem for me as it's my money and I know how I learn best.

For those that may have enrolled in the Master of Science, Cyber Security and Information Assurance program, have you found the mentors to be flexible in terms of scheduling or have they adhered to the "standard path" as listed in the MSCSIA Program Guidebook?

This, unfortunately, will be a make or break decision for me in terms of this program.
My brother is currently attending WGU for his masters. There are changes at the university right now and it seems that standard path is going to be the way to go. Along with changes on accessing courses outside your term as that is no longer allowed. 

You also will be limited in terms of courses you can register for. Basically WGU has slowed down the accelerating of students to some degree.
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(07-15-2019, 08:43 PM)sacredrain Wrote:
(07-15-2019, 05:16 AM)ELSADDIQ Wrote: Greetings,

I previously attended WGU and completed a lot of my undergrad work here under two different degree programs. I had approximately four different program mentors due to changing programs and general attrition. I found some of these program mentors did not much care how I scheduled my classes as long as the work was completed and some wanted me to follow their course selections without deviation. The latter is a problem for me as it's my money and I know how I learn best.

For those that may have enrolled in the Master of Science, Cyber Security and Information Assurance program, have you found the mentors to be flexible in terms of scheduling or have they adhered to the "standard path" as listed in the MSCSIA Program Guidebook?

This, unfortunately, will be a make or break decision for me in terms of this program.
My brother is currently attending WGU for his masters. There are changes at the university right now and it seems that standard path is going to be the way to go. Along with changes on accessing courses outside your term as that is no longer allowed. 

You also will be limited in terms of courses you can register for. Basically WGU has slowed down the accelerating of students to some degree.

They are really shooting themselves in the foot with these changes.
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(07-15-2019, 11:27 PM)Life_One Wrote:
(07-15-2019, 08:43 PM)sacredrain Wrote:
(07-15-2019, 05:16 AM)ELSADDIQ Wrote: Greetings,

I previously attended WGU and completed a lot of my undergrad work here under two different degree programs. I had approximately four different program mentors due to changing programs and general attrition. I found some of these program mentors did not much care how I scheduled my classes as long as the work was completed and some wanted me to follow their course selections without deviation. The latter is a problem for me as it's my money and I know how I learn best.

For those that may have enrolled in the Master of Science, Cyber Security and Information Assurance program, have you found the mentors to be flexible in terms of scheduling or have they adhered to the "standard path" as listed in the MSCSIA Program Guidebook?

This, unfortunately, will be a make or break decision for me in terms of this program.
My brother is currently attending WGU for his masters. There are changes at the university right now and it seems that standard path is going to be the way to go. Along with changes on accessing courses outside your term as that is no longer allowed. 

You also will be limited in terms of courses you can register for. Basically WGU has slowed down the accelerating of students to some degree.

They are really shooting themselves in the foot with these changes.

Agreed. Thanks for the responses.
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I was able to get some more information from my other brother, who is currently in the BSIT program at WGU. He has been attending since January of this year and he said the changes are:

1. You no longer need a program mentor's approval to take a pre-assessment or a non IT certification exam
2. For IT certification exams you have to get approval from the course instructor
3. You can only accelerate 1 course at a time
4. You no longer have access to courses outside the ones you are currently scheduled for, so no more trying to work ahead 
5. You no longer have access to course material until the day of a term, so even if you register say 2 weeks early you can no longer access any of the course material

He did say he hates the changes because he has 15 years in the IT field and a few certifications. During his first term he completed 30 cus in the program. Last week he was ready to take an IT certification exam. He had used off site study materials and not the ucertify course that WGU uses. When he requested to take the exam, his request was denied and the course instructor told him that he had to go into the ucertify course, complete the course content and score at least a 90 on the practice exam and 3 practice tests.

My brother was livid because he lives about 90 minutes away from the nearest PearsonVue testing center and has to take off from work to schedule his exams. Back when his program mentor was allowed to approve IT certification attempts, she would approve them on the first go, but now he is having to go back through the course material and has had to put off taking the exam for 2 weeks, because this was the only time the testing center had available.

The real kicker is that during these 2 weeks he cannot add another course or even look at another course's materials due to the changes. So two weeks wasted.
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(07-16-2019, 07:34 AM)sacredrain Wrote: I was able to get some more information from my other brother, who is currently in the BSIT program at WGU. He has been attending since January of this year and he said the changes are:

1. You no longer need a program mentor's approval to take a pre-assessment or a non IT certification exam
2. For IT certification exams you have to get approval from the course instructor
3. You can only accelerate 1 course at a time
4. You no longer have access to courses outside the ones you are currently scheduled for, so no more trying to work ahead 
5. You no longer have access to course material until the day of a term, so even if you register say 2 weeks early you can no longer access any of the course material

He did say he hates the changes because he has 15 years in the IT field and a few certifications. During his first term he completed 30 cus in the program. Last week he was ready to take an IT certification exam. He had used off site study materials and not the ucertify course that WGU uses. When he requested to take the exam, his request was denied and the course instructor told him that he had to go into the ucertify course, complete the course content and score at least a 90 on the practice exam and 3 practice tests.

My brother was livid because he lives about 90 minutes away from the nearest PearsonVue testing center and has to take off from work to schedule his exams. Back when his program mentor was allowed to approve IT certification attempts, she would approve them on the first go, but now he is having to go back through the course material and has had to put off taking the exam for 2 weeks, because this was the only time the testing center had available.

The real kicker is that during these 2 weeks he cannot add another course or even look at another course's materials due to the changes. So two weeks wasted.

Yeah, it's beginning to look like a less attractive alternative. I was already studying for CEH after having just completed another security certification so my mind is in that mode. Strategically, it wouldn't make sense for me to put off taking that class until next semester when much of what I've studied is fresh on my brain. 

Also, I've gotten a couple of my certifications through WGU and I can tell you from experience that the Ucertify material can be hit or miss.
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(07-15-2019, 08:43 PM)sacredrain Wrote: My brother is currently attending WGU for his masters. There are changes at the university right now and it seems that standard path is going to be the way to go. Along with changes on accessing courses outside your term as that is no longer allowed. 

You also will be limited in terms of courses you can register for. Basically WGU has slowed down the accelerating of students to some degree.

While it is true that you can no longer access course outside your term it does not mean you cannot accelerate.  What it means is that you need to complete those in your term before you can add another - in other words you're only limited with the amount of courses you start the term with (this is especially true if you're using financial aid - as those terms dictate your term credit requirements). As far as choosing what you want assigned in your term, it has been my experience (currently, at the master level) that the mentor will make recommendations (and give you reasons for such), but you do have ultimate say (unless of course you want to add something that requires a prereq that you haven't completed). 

There are other changes that have gone into effect that actually help with you being able to accelerate; such as not needing prior approval from your mentor to take a preassessment or take your first attempt at an OB (exam) after completing the preassessment.  This is a very positive change when it comes to accelerating your degree.

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(07-16-2019, 08:01 AM)allvia Wrote:
(07-15-2019, 08:43 PM)sacredrain Wrote: My brother is currently attending WGU for his masters. There are changes at the university right now and it seems that standard path is going to be the way to go. Along with changes on accessing courses outside your term as that is no longer allowed. 

You also will be limited in terms of courses you can register for. Basically WGU has slowed down the accelerating of students to some degree.

While it is true that you can no longer access course outside your term it does not mean you cannot accelerate.  What it means is that you need to complete those in your term before you can add another - in other words you're only limited with the amount of courses you start the term with (this is especially true if you're using financial aid - as those terms dictate your term credit requirements). As far as choosing what you want assigned in your term, it has been my experience (currently, at the master level) that the mentor will make recommendations (and give you reasons for such), but you do have ultimate say (unless of course you want to add something that requires a prereq that you haven't completed). 

There are other changes that have gone into effect that actually help with you being able to accelerate; such as not needing prior approval from your mentor to take a preassessment or take your first attempt at an OB (exam) after completing the preassessment.  This is a very positive change when it comes to accelerating your degree.

That's promising.
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