09-13-2011, 09:37 PM
First of all, thank you Yenisei and LaceyLady for the replies and the course recommendations too, that really helps.
Lacey, I think Economics fulfills the 2nd dept requirement for social sciences, but I will be sure to confirm that now, thanks.
I was tentatively planning on doing exactly what Mr. Yoder was referring to in using the Masters qualification for the CPA, but Yenisei, you make a really good point. I wasn't thinking about potentially painting myself into a corner if I don't pursue the Masters or if I'm just plain wrong about my assumption that as long as the credits were accepted by an RA school like TESC for my degree, that they would be allowed by the MACPA. I made that assumption from the following info:
ORR Admincode
My biggest frustration is that I have to assume at all. I can't get anyone on the phone or by e-mail at MACPA to give me an answer about the 30 accounting credits (testing out vs taking the actual classes). They haven't responded to multiple e-mails or voicemail so I (stupidly) was thinking about just going forward with my plan based on my assumptions. Perhaps the person in charge of student relations doesn't want to be on the hook for the wrong answer. This route that we take here seems to often lead to a lot of confusion by those that are used to the cookie-cutter college approach.
Also, another concern is that if they are going to limit the accounting requirements to only RA college classes, they could use that same logic and apply it to the 39 additional credits in the areas below:
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/dleg/E...1842_7.pdf
I just need to go back to MACPA and if I still can't get an answer from the first contact, I'll start working my way up the ladder until I get a firm answer....admittedly, that's something I should have done already!
Lacey, I think Economics fulfills the 2nd dept requirement for social sciences, but I will be sure to confirm that now, thanks.I was tentatively planning on doing exactly what Mr. Yoder was referring to in using the Masters qualification for the CPA, but Yenisei, you make a really good point. I wasn't thinking about potentially painting myself into a corner if I don't pursue the Masters or if I'm just plain wrong about my assumption that as long as the credits were accepted by an RA school like TESC for my degree, that they would be allowed by the MACPA. I made that assumption from the following info:
ORR Admincode
Quote:R 338.5145 Adoption of accreditation standards by reference; board recognition of educational institutions; requirements for concentration in accounting.
Rule 145. (1) For the purpose of identifying the educational institutions that meet the educational standards required by the board to satisfy section 725 of the act, both all of the following provisions apply:
(a) The board adopts the criteria for accreditation of the north central
association of colleges and schools, commission on institutions of higher
education, included in the publication entitled "Handbook of Accreditation,
Third Edition." Accreditation by the north central association of colleges
and schools or an affiliated association is prima facie proof of having met
the criteria.
Quote:(2) A concentration in accounting shall include the following accounting
and general business subjects, for which credit is transferable to any
baccalaureate degree-granting institution recognized by the department:
Auditing 3 semester hours Accounting principles 21 semester hours
General business subjects 24 semester hours The accounting principles shall
include study in each of the following areas:
(a) Financial accounting and accounting theory.
(b) Managerial accounting, including cost accounting.
© Accounting systems and controls
(d) United States federal taxation.
(e) Governmental/fund accounting.
My biggest frustration is that I have to assume at all. I can't get anyone on the phone or by e-mail at MACPA to give me an answer about the 30 accounting credits (testing out vs taking the actual classes). They haven't responded to multiple e-mails or voicemail so I (stupidly) was thinking about just going forward with my plan based on my assumptions. Perhaps the person in charge of student relations doesn't want to be on the hook for the wrong answer. This route that we take here seems to often lead to a lot of confusion by those that are used to the cookie-cutter college approach.
Also, another concern is that if they are going to limit the accounting requirements to only RA college classes, they could use that same logic and apply it to the 39 additional credits in the areas below:
http://www.michigan.gov/documents/dleg/E...1842_7.pdf
Quote:I. Thirty semester hours of accounting subjects, including not more
than 6 semester hours of taxation. Additional semester hours in
accounting subjects may be applied toward the general business
subject requirements.
II. Thirty-nine additional semester hours with a minimum of 3 semester
hours, but not more than 12 semester hours, in not fewer than 5 of
the following areas:
A. Business law.
B. Economics.
C. Ethics.
D. Finance.
E. Management.
F. Marketing.
G. Taxation.
H. Statistics.
I. Business policy.
I just need to go back to MACPA and if I still can't get an answer from the first contact, I'll start working my way up the ladder until I get a firm answer....admittedly, that's something I should have done already!
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