09-15-2011, 08:55 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-15-2011, 09:02 AM by cookderosa.)
I know that at the test center I was going to previously, the proctor does make note of the results of tests taken there. A violation of privacy btw, I'd say so just on principle.
They can usually tell you the average pass rate of a test. I don't see how. A random bunch of proctors, hourly workers, keep track of this collectively? Where? How? When, on break? That strikes me as sooooo uncharacteristic of human behavior that I just can't believe it's true. And if for one, never for the whole staff. Really, a bunch of proctors are so altruistic as to track statistics just for fun?
though they don't retain information on specific students results. So it doesn't seem to be that unusual of an occurrence. I disagree, I would find this highly unusual.
I imagine that information would be useful for tracking number of tests taken yes, a count for bookkeeping- not a score
and for the success rate overall of students using their facility for testing. They have no influence over success rates, it's not like a SAT. They do track results of students who SEND score reports to them. The students who are simply using the facilities scores shouldn't be counted in that group. Let's say for the sake of argument that I was a student at ABC college- and I'm an idiot, a failing idiot. My college doesn't have a testing center, so I drive over to XYZ college and take them there. I've taken a CLEP exam every month for the past 5 years and failed them all. Would my "stats" be included in XYZ's stats or ABC's stats? Of course ABC's stats. If XYZ is adding me in, they are double counting my scores because ABC "does" track me- officially.
It may also be used by some schools to determine what minimum score is required for credit or grades. Again, that data would come from their own college with their own application process. A highly selective college might require a higher score for credit in order to match the "C" grade of THEIR students, not random students off the street.
My guess, which is all it is, is that some proctor observed that on his shifts, he looks at scores and notices that about 80% of the ones he sees are passing. While this is interesting, it's not to say that a school has a stat on CLEP scores. There could be an exception, and I have it here in my home town at St. Ambrose University. They only allow their own students to take CLEP exams, no outside students. In that case, you could draw inferences between the students taking the exams (as recorded simply by bookkeeping) against the students who submit passing scores for credit. You might be able to draw some general conclusions about pass rates in that case. The students, however, hold the option of submitting a score - or not.
They can usually tell you the average pass rate of a test. I don't see how. A random bunch of proctors, hourly workers, keep track of this collectively? Where? How? When, on break? That strikes me as sooooo uncharacteristic of human behavior that I just can't believe it's true. And if for one, never for the whole staff. Really, a bunch of proctors are so altruistic as to track statistics just for fun?
though they don't retain information on specific students results. So it doesn't seem to be that unusual of an occurrence. I disagree, I would find this highly unusual.
I imagine that information would be useful for tracking number of tests taken yes, a count for bookkeeping- not a score
and for the success rate overall of students using their facility for testing. They have no influence over success rates, it's not like a SAT. They do track results of students who SEND score reports to them. The students who are simply using the facilities scores shouldn't be counted in that group. Let's say for the sake of argument that I was a student at ABC college- and I'm an idiot, a failing idiot. My college doesn't have a testing center, so I drive over to XYZ college and take them there. I've taken a CLEP exam every month for the past 5 years and failed them all. Would my "stats" be included in XYZ's stats or ABC's stats? Of course ABC's stats. If XYZ is adding me in, they are double counting my scores because ABC "does" track me- officially.
It may also be used by some schools to determine what minimum score is required for credit or grades. Again, that data would come from their own college with their own application process. A highly selective college might require a higher score for credit in order to match the "C" grade of THEIR students, not random students off the street.
My guess, which is all it is, is that some proctor observed that on his shifts, he looks at scores and notices that about 80% of the ones he sees are passing. While this is interesting, it's not to say that a school has a stat on CLEP scores. There could be an exception, and I have it here in my home town at St. Ambrose University. They only allow their own students to take CLEP exams, no outside students. In that case, you could draw inferences between the students taking the exams (as recorded simply by bookkeeping) against the students who submit passing scores for credit. You might be able to draw some general conclusions about pass rates in that case. The students, however, hold the option of submitting a score - or not.
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