Obama's America 2016

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It's not hard to search the other side when you're not so one-sided. This took like 2 seconds for me to find. Being spiritual is not the same thing as being religious. Religion is organized.

freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html

This article is more thorough.
History of the Separation of Church and State in America

There have been advances in the Big Bang Theory made in quantum physics and the String Theory. It's actually pretty interesting and goes beyond the average person's understanding of the theory just because hardly anyone actually reads up on it. I'm a Christian by the way.

One sided? Hardly. I’ve researched and studied both sides and the 3-4 quotes that “the other side” uses, are either 1) not taken in the entirety, 2) taken out of context, or 3) misunderstood. You can go to WallBuilders | Presenting America's forgotten history and heroes, with an emphasis on our moral, religious, and constitutional heritage. to find, quotes from both sides. A problem we have today are historians and writers who get their info from other historians and writers who got their information from other historians and writers, and so on. If you want to know what they believed, thought, and said, go back and read it.

Have the “advances” in quantum physics and the String Theory include how life came from none-life? Where the matter for the Big Bang came from? Solved the problem with the Cambrian explosion? Or solved the problems with Carbon 14 dating? Just to name a few of the many flaws. Most people simply say, “science” hasn’t found answers to those questions yet. So in other words, “I don’t have any evidence and blindly believe”.

Washington didn't believe in political parties!

Everything changes with the context of the times now doesn't it? You can't pick and choose. Everything has to be considered within the context of the times. Some of the things in the original Constitution were outdated. Some of the beliefs of the founding fathers are outdated. The founding fathers also disagreed on a lot of things like having a strong, centralized government and religion. Some of the founding fathers thought religion was stupid.

What things in the Constitution are outdated? And what beliefs of the founding fathers are? There’s not doubt they disagreed on some issues. Just look at the anti federalist papers and federalist papers.

Jefferson's quote was poetic in nature. He didn't think very highly of Christianity.

He didn’t think highly of Christianity? Would you mind suggesting a reason why he spend tax payer dollars, when he was president, to create and propagate Christian literature for the native indians? The famous Jefferson Bible wasn’t him cutting out the pieces he didn’t like, but the life and works of Christ so it could be used as a tool to reach unbelievers.

I’m not saying Jefferson himself was a Christian, no. But we find repeated places where Jefferson himself, speaks and acts in a supportive manner of the Christian faith. To say he did not think highly of Christianity isn’t accurate.

No, he did not. I was not talking about the separation of church and state. His quotes were in response to someone else's post. I said some, not all, of the founding fathers thought religion was stupid. This was to support my argument that the founding fathers were not monolithic in their beliefs. People love to say the founding fathers wouldn't do this or they wouldn't do that. The truth is that not all of the founding fathers agreed on everything. There is further proof in the fact that they eventually joined separate political parties with very different views on the role of the federal government. SOME! SOME! SOME! What is there not to understand about the word some? Again, being religious is not synonymous with believing in God. He asked for proof and I posted it. I was right and he was wrong. There is no way of getting around it.

Thomas Paine was an immigrant. Many Americans were immigrants at that time and there are even millions now. Immigrants can't become Americans all of a sudden?

You’re actually the one who has failed in providing evidence. WHICH founding fathers thought religion was stupid? Even the deists among them saw it as good. This quote is from Franklin to Paine, “If men are so wicked with religion, what would they be if without it?” I’m in no way saying that there were not founding fathers that didn’t think highly of religion. I’m saying, I asked you which ones, and you never listed any. I’m sorry, but how was I wrong? I asked you a question and then said "I THINK you may find that even the founding fathers that were deists believed that a free nation could not survive with out a moral and religious people." Of which that statement, holds to be true. I never stated none of them thought religion was stupid.
On another note, let's say 5% of the founding fathers thought religion was stupid (which is likely a very generous number). Let's not do what most historians do. Look at the minority, the exception, and rewrite history around it. That was not the way in which most of them thought. It was not the thought process of the time.