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Excelsior More Money For Tuition Out Of The Big Three?
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sanantone Wrote:You said that most students in graduate programs have a BS. You have yet to prove that. You can't even find very many schools that will say that BS students are preferred in graduate admissions. There are plenty of other schools saying that it doesn't even matter. APA also says it doesn't matter.

And you have yet to provide information that states that those with B.S. degrees are not more equipped for graduate school than those with B.A. degrees.

"While one degree is not necessarily better than another, some educational experts suggest that students who earn a B.S. degree in psychology have greater flexibility and more opportunities. However, it is important to focus on choosing a degree that is the best-suited to your unique needs, skills, interests and professional goals.

The Bachelor of Arts in Psychology is a great option for students who have a strong interest in psychology, but also want to explore other disciplines in greater depth. Students who choose this degree option can also opt to later go on to further study in law, education, journalism, political science, and business.

The Bachelor of Science in Psychology offers excellent preparation for careers in science, as well as further graduate study in psychology or related disciplines. Students with a strong interest in science can also benefit from this degree options extensive study in biological science and research methodology."

Consider a BA in Psychology if you:

Are planning on going straight into the workforce after completing your undergraduate degree
You plan on going to graduate school in a non-psychology field such as business, law, counseling, social work, management
Consider a BS in Psychology if you:

Are interested in a more science-oriented curriculum
You plan to earn a graduate degree in psychology
You plan to go to medical school

What's the Difference Between a BA and a BS in Psychology?

The APA also states that psychology programs differ base on the school an individual attends, which is something you have continually preferred to ignore. Even Yanji stating that based on their experience at a brick and mortar they could also see why the B.S. is held higher. So what exactly is your experience with the B.A. vs B.S. in psychology at a brick and mortar? Because the way I see it you are trying to create an argument when their is none. You have no foundation.

....And then to try to discredit my psychology degree, when I have over 90 brick and mortar credits with a majority being in the natural sciences, along with psychology courses with labs I find to be extremely funny. Rushing to judge someone not know the source of their credits, when they are combining their previous credits to finish a degree from which they left off on is not smart, what so ever. Just because Excelsior B.S. does not have as many science courses required as the school I attended which did, does not mean I need to look somewhere else for a degree. At the school I attended if you were an honor student in psychology you had to pursue a B.S, if your gpa became lower than 3.2 you were projected to a B.A. by default. You could't have an overall gap lower than a 3.2 to major in psychology with a B.S. at all.


sanantone Wrote:When I said name, I meant the title of the degree. You made this big deal about TESC not offering a BS, but attended a school that doesn't even have a science-heavy BS. By the way, since you keep on bragging about having attended brick and mortar schools where you didn't even finish as if that makes you superior, my PhD program is a ground program at a traditional university. My master's degree was earned online, but it was earned at a brick and mortar university. My BA in Social Science from TESC sure has failed me!

Do they offer a B.S.? No, so whats the problem? It appears you are the one that had the issue of me stating why I chose Excelsior, and why I wanted a B.S. in psychology, based on my experience. You appear to be pressed. I sure do have brick and mortar credits, whats your problem? But yet, you have a degree in social sciences, and criminal justice.... yet you are trying to come for me. LOLz


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sanantone Wrote:Your last sentence attempting to get back at me is a failure. I'm not the one complaining about online degree programs in biology, so I'm not being hypocritical. You're the one complaining about the lack of science and math courses in BA programs, but attended a BS program that looks just like a BA program.

Failure? But you are responding to it, are you not? ...and you are the one thats upset that someone decided to select a school based on their actual experience. So again whats your problem? But the hard science credits I have on my transcript don't look like a B.A. though.

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sanantone Wrote:You quoted UMBC. What do they have to say about their BA program?
The Bachelor of Arts (B.A.) Degree - Department of Psychology - UMBC

University of Arizona said that if you can do well in the higher level math and sciences, then the BS can make you slightly more competitive. What is really being said here is that the slightly higher math and sciences will make you more competitive. I'm sure that student at UTHSCSA with a BA in Psychology and a minor in chemistry looks quite competitive.

Whicht is what I said all along, so again. What are you arguing about?


sanantone Wrote:San Jose State University says that the BS is for those who want to pursue research in psychology. What about the practitioners? People tend to get PsyDs (which aren't research-oriented) and PhDs in clinical, school, and counseling psychology because they want to become practitioners even though those programs require dissertations. If someone just wants to become a researcher, then that person will be better off in a program that is not intended for licensure. That is what PhD programs in cognitive, experimental, social, and other research fields of psychology are for.

Psy.D. vs. Ph.D.


sanantone Wrote:Isn't it ironic how University of Iowa has a BA/MPH dual degree, but not a BS/MPH dual degree? This is what they have to say about their BA program.

Nope, because many B.A., seek master degree outside of psychology. So whats your point again?

sanantone Wrote:B.A. Program Requirements | Department of Psychology | College of Liberal Arts & Sciences | The University of Iowa

Aren't you in an applied psychology program?

Cherrypicking.


sanantone Wrote:You made a mistake linking to Appalachian because they don't support your argument at all.


Frequently Asked Questions | Department of Psychology | Appalachian State University

Did University of Washington just say that the BA is better for those who want to attend medical school and dental school?


University of Washington Psychology Department

...and that same link state Approximately 22% of all declared psychology majors choose the BA option, and the other 78% choose the BS degree option. Students pursuing a BS with a concentration can also (and often do) choose to complete a minor.


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sanantone Wrote:You seem to be focusing on research vs. applied. Many people go to graduate school because they have to in order to become licensed practitioners. In other words, saying that a degree program provides less preparation for a career in research is not the same as saying that the program provides less preparation for graduate school.

It's also ironic how the #1 and #2 graduate schools in psychology (Stanford, UC Berkeley, and UCLA) are at universities that only offer BAs in psychology.

Post the quote where I said a B.A. provided less? I said the B.S. provided such students the opportunity to be more prepared for graduate school, which you very own cherry-picked sources are stated, so again whats the problem? Never did I state those with a B.A. couldn't enter graduate school, you said that and ran with it. And its also ironic that Charter Oak offers concentrations but you all wanted majors instead of concentrations.

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Grad cert., Applied Behavior Analysis, Ball State University
M.S., in Applied Psychology, Lynn Univeristy
B.S., in Psychology, Excelsior College
A.A., Florida State College at Jacksonville


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