Excelsior More Money For Tuition Out Of The Big Three?

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And you have yet to provide information that states that those with B.S. degrees are not more equipped for graduate school than those with B.A. degrees.

You have the burden of proof because you were the first person to make the claim.

"While one degree is not necessarily better than another, some educational experts suggest that students who earn a B.S. degree in psychology have greater flexibility and more opportunities. However, it is important to focus on choosing a degree that is the best-suited to your unique needs, skills, interests and professional goals.

The Bachelor of Arts in Psychology is a great option for students who have a strong interest in psychology, but also want to explore other disciplines in greater depth. Students who choose this degree option can also opt to later go on to further study in law, education, journalism, political science, and business.

The Bachelor of Science in Psychology offers excellent preparation for careers in science, as well as further graduate study in psychology or related disciplines. Students with a strong interest in science can also benefit from this degree options extensive study in biological science and research methodology."

Consider a BA in Psychology if you:

Are planning on going straight into the workforce after completing your undergraduate degree
You plan on going to graduate school in a non-psychology field such as business, law, counseling, social work, management
Consider a BS in Psychology if you:

Are interested in a more science-oriented curriculum
You plan to earn a graduate degree in psychology
You plan to go to medical school

What's the Difference Between a BA and a BS in Psychology?

This is just a blog by someone who doesn't even work at a university and doesn't even have a graduate degree in psychology or a closely-related field. I prefer looking at the university websites to see what they think.

The APA also states that psychology programs differ base on the school an individual attends, which is something you have continually preferred to ignore.

What? Did I not say several times that the differences between a BA and BS vary by school? Are you not the person who made the blanket statement that most graduate students have a BS? You seem to ignore that admissions deans do look at the courses on your transcript and that just about ANYONE can take additional math and sciences courses. There are history and English majors getting into graduate psychology and related programs.

Even Yanji stating that based on their experience at a brick and mortar they could also see why the B.S. is held higher. So what exactly is your experience with the B.A. vs B.S. in psychology at a brick and mortar? Because the way I see it you are trying to create an argument when their is none. You have no foundation.

I took several psychology courses at a community college. My younger sister, as I stated twice before, has a BA in psychology from a traditional university (she did not attend online), was on the premed track, and has a minor in biology. One of the quantitative research methods professors in my PhD program has a BA in psychology.

....And then to try to discredit my psychology degree, when I have over 90 brick and mortar credits with a majority being in the natural sciences, along with psychology courses with labs I find to be extremely funny. Rushing to judge someone not know the source of their credits, when they are combining their previous credits to finish a degree from which they left off on is not smart, what so ever. Just because Excelsior B.S. does not have as many science courses required as the school I attended which did, does not mean I need to look somewhere else for a degree. At the school I attended if you were an honor student in psychology you had to pursue a B.S, if your gpa became lower than 3.2 you were projected to a B.A. by default. You could't have an overall gap lower than a 3.2 to major in psychology with a B.S. at all.

All of this means nothing because you ultimately chose Excelsior because they have a BS in psychology. You can't honestly tell me that you chose Excelsior because their BS program is heavy on math and science. You went for a superficial degree title.

But yet, you have a degree in social sciences, and criminal justice.... yet you are trying to come for me. LOLz

What does this even supposed to mean?

Failure? But you are responding to it, are you not? ...and you are the one thats upset that someone decided to select a school based on their actual experience. So again whats your problem? But the hard science credits I have on my transcript don't look like a B.A. though.

Your reasoning for choosing the BS doesn't line up with what's actually offered at Excelsior. If someone erroneously believes your BS is superior to the BA offered by Excelsior, I'm not sure that's the kind of person I would want to deal with in academia. Basically, you're admitting that you're playing into the misconceptions you've witnessed from online forums and a professor. By the way, Student Doctor is all over the place on this subject. I came across a thread where most said that the BA vs BS thing doesn't matter.


No, the hard sciences on your transcript don't look like a BA or BS in psychology because they didn't come from one of those programs. If you had a BA, those same science courses would still be on your transcripts.

Whicht is what I said all along, so again. What are you arguing about?

That is not what you said all along; you said the BS will make one more competitive. There is a difference between saying that and saying that additional math and science courses will make one more competitive. BS programs vary by school, and there are people with BA degrees who have taken more math and science courses than required.

Psy.D. vs. Ph.D.

A PsyD is a graduate degree, is it not?

Nope, because many B.A., seek master degree outside of psychology. So whats your point again?

Cherrypicking.

LOL. University of Iowa is the school YOU linked to.

...and that same link state Approximately 22% of all declared psychology majors choose the BA option, and the other 78% choose the BS degree option. Students pursuing a BS with a concentration can also (and often do) choose to complete a minor.

So what? You don't know why most of their students chose the BS. 85% of the students at Baylor choose the BA. Again, we don't know why.

Post the quote where I said a B.A. provided less? I said the B.S. provided such students the opportunity to be more prepared for graduate school, which you very own cherry-picked sources are stated, so again whats the problem? Never did I state those with a B.A. couldn't enter graduate school, you said that and ran with it. And its also ironic that Charter Oak offers concentrations but you all wanted majors instead of concentrations.

I don't even know what you're babbling about here. Really? Saying that those with a BS are more prepared for graduate school is essentially saying that those with a BA are less prepared. The quotes from your links talk about being prepared for a career in research and research-oriented graduate programs. You act as if all graduate programs are research-oriented and as if everyone with a psychology degree wants to become a researcher. Your eyes seem to be blind to the fact that most of my sources said that those with a BA in psychology are prepared for graduate school. You saw one or two schools that said that those with a BS are more prepared for certain types of graduate programs and ran with it.

I have stated many times on this forum that Charter Oak's concentrations are the equivalent of majors. The issue lies with HR software because the major is really in general studies. You can stretch the truth a little and say you have a major in so and so, but the truth is that the software that screens online applications does not have human judgement. When you have human eyes reviewing your resume and cover letter, this is not as much of an issue. However, HR is not the same as graduate admissions. HR is often not going to carefully analyze your transcripts to see if your concentration is indeed the equivalent of a major.