03-03-2018, 10:51 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-03-2018, 11:14 PM by armstrongsubero.)
@Ideas consider the PhD in Organizational Leadership at the Pan African Christian University. Like just over a 1000 US. A YEAR. But I may be wrong check it over.
Here's their online programs:
https://www.pacuniversity.ac.ke/index.ph...Itemid=511
Here's the fees:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwKr1Si...oyWkU/view
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Ranting time. Sour Grapes.
The US schools are really reallly expensive, I understand why Ideas is looking outside. In my case I dont have a choice, US education would be best ofr getting employers in US to look at international candidate. I mean if you want a huge football field and a big fountain on the campus, but whats up with charging international students ridiculous prices? aren't they non-profit? why can't we pay the same as students on campus? dont we use less resources? isnt your mission and vision to eudcate people? isnt it cheaper to run an online class?
Lets say fine, tax payers dollars contribute, preference to citizens etc etc. I think most for-profit schools are cheaper than "non-profit". I mean schools like Ashworth College, Penn Foster, Aspen University, and AMU seem to genuinely want people to get an education. And yet the "non-profit" schools look down on them because they are online only and want to make a profit and cut costs down to bare minimum to the student. Even Penn Foster charges like $329 for 3 credits, textbook included! most "non-profit" schools charge probably double or triple that for one cresit. They say that their "standard is inferior" because they are accredited by DEAC. From what I understand getting accredited by DEAC is very very rigirous, I mean if they were really "non-profit" institutions that were concerned about students, they would realize that people go these schools cause they literally can't afford to pay US $80 000 dollars to go to a school? it's ridiculous. I mean the IVY LEAGUE schools are the exception, you pay for the name right? but a little college hardly anyone's heard of, come on. At tihs point the MLA in Software Engineering at Harvard actually seems it might be worth more than the PhD from UA Little Rock...you get the "Harvard" stamp and is cheaper than going to "where did you say? little pebbles?"
It seems to me like the "non-profit" seems to want to trap you into their program, stating one price on thieir website then you have to dig around to see the fine print. Yet a for-proft RA school like AMu clearly states "Graduate $350 for military students $325".
The only "non-profit" schools that seems to want to genuninely help people is TESU and COSC, even Excelsior seems a little difficult from what I've been reading. I can understand TESU charging $499 a credit, I mean if you only have to take 3 credits at our school, we might as well charge good for it, you know?
These "non-profit's" are so good they even managed to convince employers and students that for-profit schools are bad, evil places where you buy a degree and dont work for it and nationally accredited degrees with make your children dumb. Kinda like Edison with DC bashing Tesla with AC. Who won that battle?
All people talk about is University of Phoenix, and Kaplan etc. But I think the majority of for-proft schools are quite good. I've emailed persons at Penn Foster, Ashworth, Grantham and AMU and gotten a response in minutes and they are happy to help. I emailed a prof at UA Little Rock and no response.
Sigh..life.
I think I want to write a non-techincal book titled "The Myth of "Non-Profit" Higher Learning Instutions".
@posabsolute Not really afraid, just looking at the worst possible outcomes
I'm with Elon when it comes to AI.
I know right? I was thinking that, even if I knock out the Patten MBA in IT in 4 months, will it really help my goals, probably except faster entry into a PhD program?
I don't need a bootcamp
. Though I guess they would help with job placement, hmmm food for thought. I think I have enough references and portfolio that it would just waste my PhD money though, lol. I did do part of freecodecamp for fun though. I think the hardest thing for me is getting a US company job on my resume. I worked for a company that had a branch in Florida, but I figure the more references the better. So I took an unpaid remote internship at a company, was working for about 2 months and just when I was getting cozy, the guy found my LinkedIn profile and said he feels wrong giving me an unpaid internship and he cant afford to hire me, and that he's sorry but he cant let me work with them anymore. So I decided to write books in my free time instead.
There's still hope, I'm going to give this my all. I am going to work at Micrrochip or TI. I am going to get a Doctorate.
Hmm, well I guess I don't have to do the microeconomics course anymore....tatarsauce.
Here's their online programs:
https://www.pacuniversity.ac.ke/index.ph...Itemid=511
Here's the fees:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwKr1Si...oyWkU/view
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ranting time. Sour Grapes.
The US schools are really reallly expensive, I understand why Ideas is looking outside. In my case I dont have a choice, US education would be best ofr getting employers in US to look at international candidate. I mean if you want a huge football field and a big fountain on the campus, but whats up with charging international students ridiculous prices? aren't they non-profit? why can't we pay the same as students on campus? dont we use less resources? isnt your mission and vision to eudcate people? isnt it cheaper to run an online class?
Lets say fine, tax payers dollars contribute, preference to citizens etc etc. I think most for-profit schools are cheaper than "non-profit". I mean schools like Ashworth College, Penn Foster, Aspen University, and AMU seem to genuinely want people to get an education. And yet the "non-profit" schools look down on them because they are online only and want to make a profit and cut costs down to bare minimum to the student. Even Penn Foster charges like $329 for 3 credits, textbook included! most "non-profit" schools charge probably double or triple that for one cresit. They say that their "standard is inferior" because they are accredited by DEAC. From what I understand getting accredited by DEAC is very very rigirous, I mean if they were really "non-profit" institutions that were concerned about students, they would realize that people go these schools cause they literally can't afford to pay US $80 000 dollars to go to a school? it's ridiculous. I mean the IVY LEAGUE schools are the exception, you pay for the name right? but a little college hardly anyone's heard of, come on. At tihs point the MLA in Software Engineering at Harvard actually seems it might be worth more than the PhD from UA Little Rock...you get the "Harvard" stamp and is cheaper than going to "where did you say? little pebbles?"
It seems to me like the "non-profit" seems to want to trap you into their program, stating one price on thieir website then you have to dig around to see the fine print. Yet a for-proft RA school like AMu clearly states "Graduate $350 for military students $325".
The only "non-profit" schools that seems to want to genuninely help people is TESU and COSC, even Excelsior seems a little difficult from what I've been reading. I can understand TESU charging $499 a credit, I mean if you only have to take 3 credits at our school, we might as well charge good for it, you know?
These "non-profit's" are so good they even managed to convince employers and students that for-profit schools are bad, evil places where you buy a degree and dont work for it and nationally accredited degrees with make your children dumb. Kinda like Edison with DC bashing Tesla with AC. Who won that battle?
All people talk about is University of Phoenix, and Kaplan etc. But I think the majority of for-proft schools are quite good. I've emailed persons at Penn Foster, Ashworth, Grantham and AMU and gotten a response in minutes and they are happy to help. I emailed a prof at UA Little Rock and no response.
Sigh..life.
I think I want to write a non-techincal book titled "The Myth of "Non-Profit" Higher Learning Instutions".
@posabsolute Not really afraid, just looking at the worst possible outcomes
I'm with Elon when it comes to AI.I know right? I was thinking that, even if I knock out the Patten MBA in IT in 4 months, will it really help my goals, probably except faster entry into a PhD program?
I don't need a bootcamp
. Though I guess they would help with job placement, hmmm food for thought. I think I have enough references and portfolio that it would just waste my PhD money though, lol. I did do part of freecodecamp for fun though. I think the hardest thing for me is getting a US company job on my resume. I worked for a company that had a branch in Florida, but I figure the more references the better. So I took an unpaid remote internship at a company, was working for about 2 months and just when I was getting cozy, the guy found my LinkedIn profile and said he feels wrong giving me an unpaid internship and he cant afford to hire me, and that he's sorry but he cant let me work with them anymore. So I decided to write books in my free time instead. There's still hope, I'm going to give this my all. I am going to work at Micrrochip or TI. I am going to get a Doctorate.
Hmm, well I guess I don't have to do the microeconomics course anymore....tatarsauce.
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PhD Information and Communication Technology (UK IET Accredited) (On Hold)
Universidad Isabel I, Spain
Masters in Business Artificial Intelligence 2024-2025
BA Computer Science, TESU '19
BA Liberal Studies, TESU '19
AS Natural Science and Mathematics, TESU '19
StraighterLine (27 Cr) Shmoop (18 Cr) Sophia (11 Cr)
TEEX (5 Cr) Aleks (9 Cr) ED4Credit (3 Cr) CPCU (2 Cr) Study.com (39 Cr)
TESU (4 cr)
B&M (46 Cr) Nations University (9 cr) UoPeople: (3 cr) Penn Foster: (8 cr)
PhD Information and Communication Technology (UK IET Accredited) (On Hold)
Universidad Isabel I, Spain
Masters in Business Artificial Intelligence 2024-2025
BA Computer Science, TESU '19
BA Liberal Studies, TESU '19
AS Natural Science and Mathematics, TESU '19
StraighterLine (27 Cr) Shmoop (18 Cr) Sophia (11 Cr)
TEEX (5 Cr) Aleks (9 Cr) ED4Credit (3 Cr) CPCU (2 Cr) Study.com (39 Cr)
TESU (4 cr)
B&M (46 Cr) Nations University (9 cr) UoPeople: (3 cr) Penn Foster: (8 cr)


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