ENEB Master Thread

[cacoleman1983]

Country: Spain
Credential: Titulo de Master
Awarded by: ENED
Status: Non-accredited program
U.S equivalency:  Master’s degree from a non-accredited institution
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My Personal conclusion: Valid non-academic degree in Spain – little utility for academic or maybe employment in the USA and Canada. I do not have any further need to go opinion shop from other evaluators.

Oof. Body blow.

I don't know what the exact reasoning behind the decision is, but if I had to make an educated guess it would be that they deem it unaccredited because of the arrangement: Even though both schools send their own separate degrees, only ENEB handles and sends the physical transcripts. And although ENEB is accredited by Spain's accepted standards of accreditation-by-association (One main school is accredited, and a separate school can enter into a partnership with that main school and be considered accredited by that association) it's not accredited by U.S. standards where each institution is only considered accredited if it has its own individual accreditation (i.e., you can't be accredited by a separate school, you can only be institutionally accredited by an institutional accrediting body).

Well, here are two positives:

1. It was recognized as a Master's degree instead of a Bachelors degree this time.

2. In a number of states, applying for licensure or bypassing significant amounts of practice hours in a number of fields only requires a valid Masters degree, be it accredited or unaccredited.

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Any recent evaluations either being from ECE or WES?

You wanna volunteer? Who wants to volunteer? (I would, but then, I have no need for this evaluation), this what I am proposing...
See this thread: post #4 specifically: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...r-to-Big-3

My feedback from WES will upset and disappoint many of you. It took almost four months to request the transcript ENEB to be sent to WES and receive a response for WES. WES took under two weeks.

Country: Spain
Credential: Titulo de Master
Awarded by: ENED
Status: Non-accredited program
U.S equivalency:  Master’s degree from a non-accredited institution
-
My Personal conclusion: Valid non-academic degree in Spain – little utility for academic or maybe employment in the USA and Canada. I do not have any further need to go opinion shop from other evaluators.

Thank you so much for the update.


Looks like we will have to transfer to a uni like UCN and get a degree from them for it to be valid.

Won't work through WES though. WES has slammed the door on UCN for now. You'd have to find another evaluator.

Currently,  the only two evaluators that will give UCN the regional accreditation stamp is Spantran and ERES according to a source I received from someone who got their PhD there.   The school usually arranges their evaluation of credentials with Spantran.

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Country: Spain
Credential: Titulo de Master
Awarded by: ENED
Status: Non-accredited program
U.S equivalency:  Master’s degree from a non-accredited institution
-
My Personal conclusion: Valid non-academic degree in Spain – little utility for academic or maybe employment in the USA and Canada. I do not have any further need to go opinion shop from other evaluators.

Oof. Body blow.

I don't know what the exact reasoning behind the decision is, but if I had to make an educated guess it would be that they deem it unaccredited because of the arrangement: Even though both schools send their own separate degrees, only ENEB handles and sends the physical transcripts. And although ENEB is accredited by Spain's accepted standards of accreditation-by-association being (One main school is accredited, and a separate school can enter into a partnership with that main school and be considered accredited by that association) it's not accredited by U.S. standards where each institution is only considered accredited if it has its own individual accreditation (i.e., you can't be accredited by a separate school, you can only be institutionally accredited by an institutional accrediting body).

Well, here are two positives:

1. It was recognized as a Master's degree instead of a Bachelors degree this time.

2. In a number of states, applying for licensure or bypassing significant amounts of practice hours in a number of fields only requires a valid Masters degree, be it accredited or unaccredited.

---

You wanna volunteer? Who wants to volunteer? (I would, but then, I have no need for this evaluation), this what I am proposing...
See this thread: post #4 specifically: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...r-to-Big-3

My feedback from WES will upset and disappoint many of you. It took almost four months to request the transcript ENEB to be sent to WES and receive a response for WES. WES took under two weeks.

Country: Spain
Credential: Titulo de Master
Awarded by: ENED
Status: Non-accredited program
U.S equivalency:  Master’s degree from a non-accredited institution
-
My Personal conclusion: Valid non-academic degree in Spain – little utility for academic or maybe employment in the USA and Canada. I do not have any further need to go opinion shop from other evaluators.

Thank you so much for the update.


Looks like we will have to transfer to a uni like UCN and get a degree from them for it to be valid.

Won't work through WES though. WES has slammed the door on UCN for now. You'd have to find another evaluator.

is there a distinction between unaccredited and non-accredited? According to WES ENEB certificate is a Master’s degree from a non-accredited institution.

I can understand why WES evaluated like this.   It shows no reference to Universidad Isabel I which made the ENEB certificate valid.  By themselves, ENEB is not accredited and Universidad Isabel I makes the diplomas more legitimate but still unofficial. 

ECE likely evaluated it coming from Universidad Isabel I resulting in a Bachelors equivalent because the credits are (proprio) unofficial graduate credits through ENEB coming from an accredited school but speaks in code about the degree requiring a 3-year Bachelors degree.

I think if someone wants to get this successfully evaluated as a regionally accredited Masters degree, they would need to have Universidad Isabel I somehow issue an official transcript of ENEB courses but that probably won't happen. At this point, ENEB's unoffical/unaccredited credentials are equivalent to ACE credits due to approval from the ECTS credit system. This can work for transfer to complete or create another specialization for a credential or transfer for upgrade to a new one, not as a standalone credential.