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Remote Proctoring deemed illegal as violation of 4th amendment rights?
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(08-26-2022, 05:51 AM)LevelUP Wrote:
(08-25-2022, 11:59 PM)studyingfortests Wrote:
(08-25-2022, 01:09 PM)ss20ts Wrote: People still cheat with proctoring. It doesn't prevent it 100%. People will always find a way to cheat. Some people just don't belong in college. People cheat with papers as well......always have. Now it's just easier to catch them. 

Security is a major issue as there are have already been numerous breaks in security with these proctoring companies. A division of a hard drive isn't really going to protect you. Neither will burner credit cards or emails. You're required to upload a colored photo of your driver's license to your account on Examity. You also have to show it in the video. I have tried for a year to get my license photo removed and they still have not removed it.
Amen to this.  One of the most disheartening things I discovered, while googling information about various graduate school curriculums and individual courses was a shocking number of just blatant plagiarism sites.  They go so far as to list a specific school and course number and promise they can write you the perfect essay / assignment / take your test for you / write your signature assignment.   And I mean, dozens or hundreds of them. All promising guaranteed 100% original content, plagiarism free.  This took me down a rabbit hole and I found a discussion of various graduate students and recent graduates and, sometimes, younger *professors* at a given school, offering to write papers for students via these services.

I don't know what the solution is, because I agree that no matter what you do, students will find a way to cheat. Worse, students whose normal behavior might be to look up when thinking, or who have some level of distraction and look off to the side, get busted by some of these AI based exam proctors that think they are cheating... when they are totally not doing so.

I honestly wonder what % of students hire these paper writing services?  And how these students perform in the workplace once they've graduated.  Come to think of it, a couple of the hires my company has made probably did this, because they have degrees from highly credible schools that you'd think would qualify them... and they seem to lack even the most basic knowledge in their field.

It's disheartening.



AI can be used to detect differences in writing styles. A human can also detect something is off, especially if written by a non-native speaker. Then a college can pull previous papers can compare them.

This might be true but you say it as if it's a cheap, easy process.  Universities don't have dozens of people just sitting around to proof every paper that is written, checking writing styles.  There is no data base of old papers just sitting there waiting for someone to comb through it to compare with current papers.  There are no customized AI programs available to every professor .  It's a fantasy.
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RE: Remote Proctoring deemed illegal as violation of 4th amendment rights? - by Alpha - 08-26-2022, 08:04 AM

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