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Why does DegreeForum like ENEB
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(12-05-2023, 10:25 PM)SophiaPrincess Wrote: There are a lot of misconceptions about European degrees in general, and ENEB in particular.  Higher education is heavily subsidized in most European countries and often free. The fact that a legitimate degree can be earned for $300 seems shocking to North Americans but perfectly normal in Europe.

Most nations have no equivalent to Titulo Propio degrees. They signify study of a subject to some level of familiarity below mastery. Titulo Oficial degrees include more rigorous testing which conveys the presumption of mastery of the subject.

Proctoring is a relatively new. For centuries education was accomplished using the honor code. The ENEB degrees depend upon the integrity of their students. Exams and papers are not a degree. If they correlate well, exams and papers may serve to demonstrate mastery. However, the absence of corroborating evidence of mastery, such as tests or essays, doesn't invalidate a degree. Rather, it places the responsibility of demonstrating learning on the graduate.

I am reminded of a story by the great Dr. John Bear. One of the members of his doctoral dissertation evaluation team at Michigan State was called away from Dr. Bear's dissertation defense early in his presentation. Before departing, the evaluator, who was leaving, gave a note to one of the other evaluators which was read then crumpled and thrown in the trash can. Dr. Bear retrieved the note afterward. It said something along the lines of please congratulate John for a great dissertation.
John Bear was presumed to have done well preparing his dissertation by the departing evaluator. At least at the graduate level, students are presumed to take their education seriously. Students are expected to be personally responsible for their education. This is the way a degree at ENEB should be approached.  If you expect hand-holding and supervision you will be disappointed.
I am a lowly Sophia student. Student are entirely responsible for their own learning in much the same way as ENEB.

This has been a deal for years now. I think most people are past the shock of the low prices of Spanish education. That's not the issue anymore.

"The ENEB degrees depend upon the integrity of their students. Exams and papers are not a degree. If they correlate well, exams and papers may serve to demonstrate mastery. However, the absence of corroborating evidence of mastery, such as tests or essays, doesn't invalidate a degree. Rather, it places the responsibility of demonstrating learning on the graduate."

Mastery is not guaranteed because one writes papers and takes multiple exams, as there is a difference between short-term recall to pass tests and research information, and actual mastery which is demonstrated by a person's ability to access the correct information from their own mind without reference material. 

However, where your concept is totally flawed is in the misunderstanding of the difference between milling and mastery. Writing papers and taking multiple exams provides the absolute highest probability that mastery will be obtained versus a 50 question exam which ensures absolutely no possibility that mastery will be obtained. There is no way at all that a person can prove their knowledge of 13 Master's-level courses in a 50 question exam. The very idea is completely ridiculous. The courses in an MBA program have very specific knowledge, terminology, and introductions to systems that most human beings—even those with lots of business experience—wouldn't just know.
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Why does DegreeForum like ENEB - by Pinko64 - 11-02-2023, 12:38 PM
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