09-06-2025, 03:40 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-06-2025, 03:43 PM by Duneranger.)
(09-05-2025, 11:44 PM)Patchouli_Skoal Wrote:I understand its more common and its a bizarre cash grab. EWU and SNHU are no-name history MA programs. I guess that's what this tier is now? Notice how ZERO top or even mildly close to top programs do this? Wonder why. MONEY.(09-05-2025, 08:24 PM)Duneranger Wrote:(09-03-2025, 10:46 PM)Patchouli_Skoal Wrote: I graduated from the BA History/Poli Sci program and this looks like it's designed to build nicely on that. I wonder if any of the lower level courses will roll up to it the way a few of the business courses do for the MAOL.
Hopefully not, as someone with a MA in history, the rigor is 100% different than the undergrad courses at UMPI.
No thesis/dissertation is bizarre for a history-esque degree....
I wouldn't expect they'd roll up either. Was just curious because a few of the business classes do for MAOL and MSB.
I think the no-thesis plan is becoming more common for MA history programs of this tier, at least by my sample size of two. It isn't required at either EWU or SNHU.
If you aren't contributing to the field in an original historiographical manner, I have no idea why someone would be in a history MA program. The whole purpose is to analyze the current evidence critically, then contribute something interesting or novel in the form of a thesis. Otherwise, how is it different than an undergrad history program?
Other MA or MS programs don't necessarily require a thesis, I get it. But HISTORY? That's honestly ridiculous. My thesis took me 400 hours and 5 months of work to earn the MA....
History is a lot different than business. Nothing in the UMPI History/PolSci curriculum comes even close to a grad level history class. It's all superficial rote memorization with some mild critical analysis.
It's honestly sad how these types of programs are all low-effort cash grabs nowadays...


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