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Degree Plan -- BSBA in Accounting (TESC)
#11
AZDan Wrote:Thanks for posting as I also plan to get a BSBA in Accounting. Do you mind asking me approximately how much you have spent so far? Did you subscribe to any study plans to help you with the tests?

I hope to be transfering about 60 credits so I'm trying to plan out a calendar for me as well and want to know, realistically, how long this will take me. Also, I've been in accounting for about 15 years so I am hoping I can take several of the accounting tests without too much time studying.
My pleasure. Oh, hrm... off the top of my head, it's probably cost somewhere between 5-7K so far. Probably end up being 8 or 9? That's just a wag, I'd have to add everything up. I subscribed to IC, which the info from the cards and specific exam feedback is invaluable. That's about it... I'd purchase (or find at out library) study guides or books, but the only subscribed study programs I did was with IC.
It depends on what you have left, and how fast you go. Anywhere from under a year, to two years. Wouldn't be shocked at all if you applied yourself that you'd be able to finish it in a year.
AZDan Wrote:
Prloko Wrote:As far as I recollect there are only very few accounting exams you can take, CLEP financial accounting, DSST accounting, Excelsior financial and managerial accounting. The advanced courses will have to be taken either at a college or through independent study.
Okay, you just burst my bubble. Since I don't have the time or the funding to take many courses, maybe I am looking at the wrong degree? Are there any other options?
Here's a thought. Start working on a class from the beginning. If you don't count StraighterLine, in the end you really only need 5 courses. Something like LSU may work for you since you've already been in the accounting field for a while. It's pretty cheap (as far as courses are concerned), $450 per course. 100% self paced. All online. If you start with a course and keep that going, do a course every 2 months for 10 months, you'd be done. Meanwhile studying for and taking tests on the side.
I wish I had done something like this. Instead, I took all my tests first, and now am just doing the courses which is taking longer then it could of.
Ubuntu_user Wrote:I can reassure you that Intermediate Accounting II gets harder than I is. Wink

Publius, is what you show above how tesc actually applied each of those tests to your degree outline? I guess there's quite a bit of room for flexibility and doing things different! Big Grin
I had a suspicion that was the case. Tongue

Not quite, they did mix a few things around, but nothing major. Mostly just with the gen eds. Yes, there is a lot of flexibility and room.
#12
Awesome info Publius. I guess I am stuck on where to begin. Since I am not sure how TESC or even COSC will apply my credits, and thus let me know what courses I have left to take, that I should apply first and wait until they let me know about the credits, right?

Once I get their transcript evaluation I can then determine my degree plan and start testing for those courses that I can and enroll in classes that I won't be able to take a test for. Am I correct in thinking this?

I have read that the Prior Learning Evaluation process is not recommended due to the length of time but does some of the possible credits apply to UL or just lower level? If UL I wonder if it's something I can consider?
#13
Currently ACE-approved: Penn Foster offers Intermediate Account I, Intermediate Accounting II, Cost Accounting, Computer Applications in Accounting, Financial Accounting, and Managerial Accounting. In addition to the tests everyone listed, there are also Financial and Managerial Accounting TECEPs, but I would take the ECEs and/or CLEP/DSST since they're graded on a curve. As you can see in Publius' plan, Straighterline's Managerial Accounting is transcribed as Cost Accounting by TESC. All of these options are cheaper than LSU or any other independent study courses.
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MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
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DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
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Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
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A&P
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#14
sanantone Wrote:Currently ACE-approved: Penn Foster offers Intermediate Account I, Intermediate Accounting II, Cost Accounting, Computer Applications in Accounting, Financial Accounting, and Managerial Accounting. In addition to the tests everyone listed, there are also Financial and Managerial Accounting TECEPs, but I would take the ECEs and/or CLEP/DSST since they're graded on a curve. As you can see in Publius' plan, Straighterline's Managerial Accounting is transcribed as Cost Accounting by TESC. All of these options are cheaper than LSU or any other independent study courses.
This is very true!! I had intended to mention Penn Foster's courses earlier, but it slipped my mind. Thanks for posting this sanatone.

The reason I personally went with all my (heaver) courses at LSU was for consistency. Wanted to take them all from the same place that uses the same methods, etc. For Financial, Managerial, and Cost Accounting, I did go with SL just because it was cheaper and faster. Intermediate I, II, Gov. & Not for Profit, and Forensic & Fraud Acct (last two replaced Advanced Acct and Auditing) were/are via LSU. To be honest, I have had second thoughts about NOT taking at least Intermediate Acct I & II, through Penn Foster. So, for anyone out there, I'd definitely research a bit and see which would fit your needs better.
#15
sanantone Wrote:Currently ACE-approved: Penn Foster offers Intermediate Account I, Intermediate Accounting II, Cost Accounting, Computer Applications in Accounting, Financial Accounting, and Managerial Accounting. In addition to the tests everyone listed, there are also Financial and Managerial Accounting TECEPs, but I would take the ECEs and/or CLEP/DSST since they're graded on a curve. As you can see in Publius' plan, Straighterline's Managerial Accounting is transcribed as Cost Accounting by TESC. All of these options are cheaper than LSU or any other independent study courses.

Just curious, if the OP wanted to get his CPA later, would the NA nature of Penn Foster prevent him from getting his CPA?

I previously was interested in accounting and had lost interest after my second BYU accounting course Tongue There was a school, Indiana Tech that allowed you to take courses in a quick format, but they weren't cheap. Also Upper Iowa University had several upper level accounting courses in independent study, and accelerated courses. Once again, they weren't cheap.
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#16
Prloko Wrote:Just curious, if the OP wanted to get his CPA later, would the NA nature of Penn Foster prevent him from getting his CPA?

I previously was interested in accounting and had lost interest after my second BYU accounting course Tongue There was a school, Indiana Tech that allowed you to take courses in a quick format, but they weren't cheap. Also Upper Iowa University had several upper level accounting courses in independent study, and accelerated courses. Once again, they weren't cheap.

That's a good question and it depends on the state. I know Texas requires that most accounting courses be taken butt-in-seat anyway. Ain't nobody got time for that!
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Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
#17
Prloko Wrote:Just curious, if the OP wanted to get his CPA later, would the NA nature of Penn Foster prevent him from getting his CPA?

I previously was interested in accounting and had lost interest after my second BYU accounting course Tongue There was a school, Indiana Tech that allowed you to take courses in a quick format, but they weren't cheap. Also Upper Iowa University had several upper level accounting courses in independent study, and accelerated courses. Once again, they weren't cheap.
Awesome point! This could factor in as far as CPA requirements go. I actually contacted my state's CPA board and asked not about PF courses, but about the tests and basically "non-traditional" means of obtaining credit. Their response was "college credit is college credit, you'll be fine" so for me that wasn't an issue. For some states testing out, and certain types of schools are. For people reading this in the future, there was actually a thread on CPA requirements... here it is: http://www.degreeforum.net/general-educa...ments.html

As it's mentioned in that thread, if becoming a CPA is your goal, check with your states licensing board on what you can and can not do! Some states are picky, others aren't.
#18
Well I went ahead and applied to TESC today for BS in Accounting. I am now in the process of getting my transcripts to them so I can see what courses they will determine I have remaining to take. From that point I will search for what courses I can test out of and immediately begin taking courses through IC or SL when possible. I will take the courses at the same time I take tests for other courses as some of you have recommended.

Since I am anticipating about 60 credits being transferred I am going to set a goal of completing my BS Accounting degree in 6 months. My long term goal is to get my masters and possibly CPA as well.

Thoughts/suggestions?
#19
AZDan Wrote:Well I went ahead and applied to TESC today for BS in Accounting. I am now in the process of getting my transcripts to them so I can see what courses they will determine I have remaining to take. From that point I will search for what courses I can test out of and immediately begin taking courses through IC or SL when possible. I will take the courses at the same time I take tests for other courses as some of you have recommended.

Since I am anticipating about 60 credits being transferred I am going to set a goal of completing my BS Accounting degree in 6 months. My long term goal is to get my masters and possibly CPA as well.

Thoughts/suggestions?

Well it was mentioned above, check out what requirements are needed to become a CPA in your state, and that you have that green light from them.
Good idea to work on your accounting stuff first, you're going to need to knock out the courses themselves as soon as possible, esp with your goal. You're goal is fine, a bit high (doing what takes most people 2 years to do in 1/4 of the time) but in no means not obtainable. Best of luck to you!
#20
Publius Wrote:Well it was mentioned above, check out what requirements are needed to become a CPA in your state, and that you have that green light from them.
Good idea to work on your accounting stuff first, you're going to need to knock out the courses themselves as soon as possible, esp with your goal. You're goal is fine, a bit high (doing what takes most people 2 years to do in 1/4 of the time) but in no means not obtainable. Best of luck to you!

Yes, I forgot to mention that I did go to my state's Board of Accountancy website to check on the CPA requirements. It does state that you need 150 semester hours from an "accredited institution" and 36 semester hours of accounting courses of which 30 semester hours must be upper level. It doesn't state in detail much more regarding the type of accreditation other than that.

To fulfill my 150 credit requirement I was planning to get an MBA to cover that and then take the CPA courses.

I think I will really be able to nail down my 6 month goal once I know what TESC will give me on my previous transcripts but I want to get this over fast.


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