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My Time is Running Out
#31
Prloko Wrote:Well, if you are going the slower route, and everybody feel free to chime in, but how about a different school than the big 3?

Off the top of my head, Penn State World Campus has the Bachelor's of Letters Arts and Science. The school accepts 60 Clep/DSST credits (although the don't except all of them including the English comp exams). You can transfer in your B&M credits plus the 60 CLEP/DSST credits and be maybe 1.5 years from completion if you are aggressive. The degree in LAS is awarded from the college of liberal arts in University Park. You should be able to increase your GPA to a respectable level and have the degree in a ranked school (please no arguments about world campus being ranked or not). A law school friendly degree from a decent school and an out of the park LSAT with your interesting background might be enough.

Also, if you live in California and are just looking to start your own practice, then I believe Concordia University allows you to sit for the California Bar, and since you test well, you should be able to pass the bar.

In addition, the U of Wisconsin has competency based degrees which you will probably complete quickly.
Well, World Campus wouldn't be ranked because it's not a real campus. No one gets their degree from World Campus; they get their degree from one of the brick and mortar, Penn State campuses which may or may not be ranked high.

Northern Arizona University is competency-based, about $5,000 per year, awards grades, and now accepts financial aid for the self-paced programs.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
#32
I hadn't thought of Northern Arizona University. That might be a real good fit for the OP. One of NAU's requirements is a ton of credits in a foreign language (I believe 12 credits) and the OP has those already. At NAU he gets grades, and if I remember right, the impression I had was that grades were determined by how much you master the material. The minimum grade for mastery was a B, and you needed a B before you could move on to another task/course, or you could continue with the course/task you were working on until you showed complete mastery and earned an A.
BA Liberal Studies from Thomas Edison State University
#33
Ok. Tomorrow I finish the process of exhuming all of the credits and Fs buried in my deep past. I'm not optimistic.

I could have another (+/-) 7 'F's banging around back there and if that's the case, I just don't see too much point in paying for a whole bunch of courses that don't seem likely to offset (+/-) 11 'F's, including the 4 I've already posted. Am I wrong in thinking that if I have all of those atrocities to my name, then my GPA couldn't possibly be improved to a respectable score w/o taking many semesters worth of A+ courses? Eleven 'F's plus eleven 'A's would still only average out to a 2.0, if I have this right.

Using the LSAC calculator I see that there are a number of schools that would be likely to accept a prospective student with a 2.0 and 172. (Not that my purely CLEP degree would rise even to that level, but the calculator doesn't go any lower than 2.0 for GPA.) Perhaps I could demonstrate mastery of material? I've been lucky with my CLEPs: I scored 172 on Am. Lit., 174 on Eng. Lit., 168 on Spanish and 163 on Sociology. Despite my terrible GPA and my non-diverse background (I'm white, male, and culturally unexceptional) If I could construct a magnificent personal statement and show current mastery of all material I bombed in the past, this could do something?

I might totally be missing the boat here. Hopefully my math is totally off, and I could get something in the low 3.0 range with just a good semester to my name. Hopefully I don't have as much scholarly wreckage as I assume I have. I'll find out ASAP

I'm in no way opposed to abandoning an all CLEP plan and taking a bunch of courses to boost my GPA... if that would work with my GPA graveyard.

One more time, thanks for all the help with this. I'm blown away by everyone's generosity.
#34
sanantone Wrote:Well, World Campus wouldn't be ranked because it's not a real campus. No one gets their degree from World Campus; they get their degree from one of the brick and mortar, Penn State campuses which may or may not be ranked high.

exactly why i stated that particular degree is awarded from university park. world campus is a delivery method, not a school.
CLEPS Passed: 10 DSST Passed: 11 TECEPS: 1

PrLoko-isms
Don't waste time by trying to save time. The only sure way to complete your degree is to knock out credits quickly and efficiently.

Don't let easiness bite you in the rear. Know your endgame (where you want to be) and plan backward from there. Your education is a means to an end.

Be honest professionally, socially and academically. There are people (especially little ones) who look up to you and they're going by your example.

Be proud. Whether you're an Engineer or Fast Food worker, there is honor and dignity in hard work.

Picking on people weaker than you only proves that you are a weak person.
#35
ExpeditedInfo Wrote:Ok. Tomorrow I finish the process of exhuming all of the credits and Fs buried in my deep past. I'm not optimistic.

I could have another (+/-) 7 'F's banging around back there and if that's the case, I just don't see too much point in paying for a whole bunch of courses that don't seem likely to offset (+/-) 11 'F's, including the 4 I've already posted. Am I wrong in thinking that if I have all of those atrocities to my name, then my GPA couldn't possibly be improved to a respectable score w/o taking many semesters worth of A+ courses? Eleven 'F's plus eleven 'A's would still only average out to a 2.0, if I have this right.

Using the LSAC calculator I see that there are a number of schools that would be likely to accept a prospective student with a 2.0 and 172. (Not that my purely CLEP degree would rise even to that level, but the calculator doesn't go any lower than 2.0 for GPA.) Perhaps I could demonstrate mastery of material? I've been lucky with my CLEPs: I scored 172 on Am. Lit., 174 on Eng. Lit., 168 on Spanish and 163 on Sociology. Despite my terrible GPA and my non-diverse background (I'm white, male, and culturally unexceptional) If I could construct a magnificent personal statement and show current mastery of all material I bombed in the past, this could do something?

I might totally be missing the boat here. Hopefully my math is totally off, and I could get something in the low 3.0 range with just a good semester to my name. Hopefully I don't have as much scholarly wreckage as I assume I have. I'll find out ASAP

I'm in no way opposed to abandoning an all CLEP plan and taking a bunch of courses to boost my GPA... if that would work with my GPA graveyard.

One more time, thanks for all the help with this. I'm blown away by everyone's generosity.

Im not trying to sound like a jerk, but with all those Fs, what makes you think you'll get As from Tesc? Granted, this isn't a top school, and you're obviously smart, but they do require you to work, a lot at that. The school doesn't just hand out As for zero work, at least not in my experience. What made you get those Fs in the first place? Was it , a lack of desire? If that is case, your best best is clepping everything, but save one course.
COSC has an academic forgiveness policy that may be helpful to you, i provided a link. I really think you need to take a few days and draw up a strategic plan for yourself and work backwords into your plan. Education is a means to an end, where are you trying to go?

Academic Forgiveness Policy - Charter Oak State College Catalog

Ugh, I hate posting with an Ipad.
CLEPS Passed: 10 DSST Passed: 11 TECEPS: 1

PrLoko-isms
Don't waste time by trying to save time. The only sure way to complete your degree is to knock out credits quickly and efficiently.

Don't let easiness bite you in the rear. Know your endgame (where you want to be) and plan backward from there. Your education is a means to an end.

Be honest professionally, socially and academically. There are people (especially little ones) who look up to you and they're going by your example.

Be proud. Whether you're an Engineer or Fast Food worker, there is honor and dignity in hard work.

Picking on people weaker than you only proves that you are a weak person.
#36
Prloko Wrote:COSC has an academic forgiveness policy that may be helpful to you, i provided a link. I really think you need to take a few days and draw up a strategic plan for yourself and work backwords into your plan. Education is a means to an end, where are you trying to go?

Academic Forgiveness Policy - Charter Oak State College Catalog

Ugh, I hate posting with an Ipad.
That would only affect the COSC GPA; it would have no effect on the OP's cumulative GPA.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
#37
sanantone Wrote:That would only affect the COSC GPA; it would have no effect on the OP's cumulative GPA.

nooooo, really?
CLEPS Passed: 10 DSST Passed: 11 TECEPS: 1

PrLoko-isms
Don't waste time by trying to save time. The only sure way to complete your degree is to knock out credits quickly and efficiently.

Don't let easiness bite you in the rear. Know your endgame (where you want to be) and plan backward from there. Your education is a means to an end.

Be honest professionally, socially and academically. There are people (especially little ones) who look up to you and they're going by your example.

Be proud. Whether you're an Engineer or Fast Food worker, there is honor and dignity in hard work.

Picking on people weaker than you only proves that you are a weak person.
#38
Prloko Wrote:nooooo, really?

The point is for the OP to get into a decent law school, so the COSC GPA doesn't even matter. The OP needs to raise the overall GPA.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
#39
sanantone Wrote:The point is for the OP to get into a decent law school, so the COSC GPA doesn't even matter. The OP needs to raise the overall GPA.

I'm well aware of the OPs intent, and OP knows he/she needs to get their GPA up, the link is for information of the OP. I already addressed the matter of taking extra courses to increase GPA, but I'm not going to hijack the thread, so ExpeditedInfo, I apologize.
CLEPS Passed: 10 DSST Passed: 11 TECEPS: 1

PrLoko-isms
Don't waste time by trying to save time. The only sure way to complete your degree is to knock out credits quickly and efficiently.

Don't let easiness bite you in the rear. Know your endgame (where you want to be) and plan backward from there. Your education is a means to an end.

Be honest professionally, socially and academically. There are people (especially little ones) who look up to you and they're going by your example.

Be proud. Whether you're an Engineer or Fast Food worker, there is honor and dignity in hard work.

Picking on people weaker than you only proves that you are a weak person.
#40
Prloko Wrote:I'm well aware of the OPs intent, and OP knows he/she needs to get their GPA up, the link is for information of the OP. I already addressed the matter of taking extra courses to increase GPA, but I'm not going to hijack the thread, so ExpeditedInfo, I apologize.

I don't think you're wrong about your concerns. Truly earning A's isn't about being smart. I earn A's all the time, and I'm quite average. Earning A's is about being skilled at being a student. Knowing how to play the game. The game requires endurance, clear understanding of the rules, and an ability to prioritize your time for the highest return on investment. Every assignment exactly according to the requirements, exceeding expectations when the professor's opinion influences the grade, etc. THAT whole bit. In that arena, I'm QUITE above average at. As for someone who consistently tests high but fails classes? I've studied that a bit, and I'll reserve my interpretation of what I think that means, but at the end of the day, A person who hopes to earn A's, needs to rev up their skill set in "being a good student" department.

The OP, possibly, has challenges in this area. That said, look back a few replies up, I pointed out that the reality of the OP earning 40 graded credits worth of straight A's is unlikely (no disrespect) but that there is a better likelihood of being able to pull it off in 1 semester at TESC.
The point sanatone makes, is the same one I made, that IN THIS CASE the GPA question applies to a whole collection of grades that WILL be revealed in the grad school application process. Numerically, the OP isn't going to be able to improve his cumulative GPA enough to matter. The point of earning A's today is to argue an upward trajectory of grades. Is that a reality? I don't know, and that's for the OP to worry about. The OP may get into law school and soar, or fail miserably. But the point of all the strategizing/hypothesizing is to create what we each believe to be the strongest application.


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