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New Sophia Courses: College Math and Chemistry
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College Math is a lower level of math than College Algebra. College Math is pre-algebra stuff.
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I would advise potential students to do college algebra and intro to stats at Sophia.
College math is a dumbed down version of college algebra. And many universities won't even accept this ACE course for transfer.
Mathematics is foundational for so many different subjects. It is only second to good reading and writing skills. When a person enrolls into a math course, she is investing in skills for the long term. The more you train your math and logic skills the better the performance in a host of business and IT related subjects. So my advice would be to do the harder math courses, and preferably to do more than two courses.
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#23
If college math fits your degree plan, great! If it doesn't, it may hit the free electives. I would use it as a learning opportunity to review/relearn and ladder up to the College Algebra course. In regards to the Chemistry course, it doesn't have a lab option does it? If it doesn't, then it can be used as a gen ed without lab, it should hit that spot well...
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(01-29-2022, 02:49 AM)andromeda_galaxy Wrote:
(01-28-2022, 12:16 PM)ss20ts Wrote:
(01-28-2022, 06:36 AM)path_seeker Wrote: I wish UMPI accepts Math course for 3A

Take College Algebra from Sophia. It fills 3A. College Math won't fill it. They want students to have some math skills. Depending on your major, you may be surprised how often things from algebra and statistics come up. In business classes, you'll see this happen over and over.

But this course looks better than College Algebra.

Define better. College Math is like a remedial math course at many colleges. It won't be accepted at many schools. If you're lucky it may be considered an elective. If one doesn't have a decent amount of experience with math or struggles with math then this is a good stepping stone type of course where you take this course then move onto College Algebra.
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College Math is generally considered the lowest college-level math: Math 100. It's above Algebra I, since it generally includes quite a bit of Algebra in it. But it generally also doesn't focus on Algebra, and does a lot more "real world" math that you'd use more often, including simple stats, percentages, FVM, things like that.

Many schools DO accept this course; it's the 6th most popular CLEP exam, many thousands of people take that each year.

For many degrees, you don't need College Algebra. So if your school will let you take College Math (or Contemporary Math or Liberal Arts Math or anything like that), go ahead and take whichever math is easiest for you to pass. If you're not sure, then you should certainly go as high as you can.
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A lot of people aren't good at math and may need to work up until they can handle college algebra. I count myself in that group and glad to see Sophia adding a class like this.
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(01-29-2022, 06:16 PM)echo64 Wrote: A lot of people aren't good at math and may need to work up until they can handle college algebra. I count myself in that group and glad to see Sophia adding a class like this.

Yes, I completed Intro to Applied Math, and College Math for the same reason. Not considering their transferability, they gave a solid refresher to College Algebra, making it easier to cruise through Algebra. Worst case is not getting a credit, best case is transferring as general electives, but nothing to lose.
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Just finished the intro to college math. It was decent, I guess. Exactly what the title would imply. A little bit of an overview of different types of math, at a basic level. I am new to all of this, compared to a lot of you, but having seen how a “college math” classes transfer from SUNY to California CC systems, I would guess your best option with this class is to take it, then take something higher like algebra, and hope that the higher class meets the requirement, and this class is a free elective (or best case, the other way around). College math from SUNY to CCC transferred in high enough for a local degree (AS or AA) but not high enough for a transfer degree to UC or CSU (AST or AAT). Again, this is ALL speculation from someone who has had to move around a bit and transferred B&M credits around, but is new to what we’re doing here.
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(01-30-2022, 12:18 AM)path_seeker Wrote:
(01-29-2022, 06:16 PM)echo64 Wrote: A lot of people aren't good at math and may need to work up until they can handle college algebra. I count myself in that group and glad to see Sophia adding a class like this.

Yes, I completed Intro to Applied Math, and College Math for the same reason. Not considering their transferability, they gave a solid refresher to College Algebra, making it easier to cruise through Algebra. Worst case is not getting a credit, best case is transferring as general electives, but nothing to lose.

I think this is what I am going to do.  It has been over 30 years since I've taken a math class, and even then, I had horrible math anxiety.
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(02-20-2022, 11:26 AM)staceyelle Wrote: I think this is what I am going to do.  It has been over 30 years since I've taken a math class, and even then, I had horrible math anxiety.

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by how easy Sophia makes math, compared to a standard math class. Smile
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