TESU BS Professional Studies Help

[Adah_Alb]

Hi Everyone! I'm new here.  I've been working on this map for a while and I'm a little stuck.  Just a few questions:

• I have two classes from Walden University that don't show up in the TESU transfer credit list- does anyone know if this means you get nothing at TESU, or do they possibly still transfer in as electives? The two courses are EDUC1015 and RELG2001. 
  
• I'm also stuck on MAR301- which is listed as an Open Course option, but isn't listed as a TECEP option. Can you do a portfolio without taking the PLA classes?
  
• For FIN301 looks like the only option is taking the FINRA series 7 exam- and from my limited research it's $245 and I'm not even sure if you can take the series 7 without taking all the others. 
  
• I do have two AP tests from 2008 that I scored a 3 and a 5 on- Lit&Comp and then I *think* it was American Gov on the second one but I am still trying to track it down to be sure. I can't find a solid answer on whether TESU will honor AP credits from that long ago, but the ACE website still lists them. 
  
• Finally- for the second round of electives the TESU website doesn't provide any guidance about what are acceptable classes- are these any career related credits, or do they have to be 300/400 level?
  

Here is my plan so far (RIGHT at the 90 non-RA credit limit)   
Anyone spot anything that I could have planned out better?  Anything I got wrong with transfer equivalencies for Sophia classes? Attached as an excel doc.

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Thanks!

[rachel83az]

The Walden courses of EDUC1015 and RELG2001 will almost certainly transfer in. But they don't currently have equivalencies in their little transfer catalog (so far as we can see) so it may take a little longer for them to figure out where the classes fit.

You must take the portfolio to get the credit. Thankfully, Davar has MAR-301. https://www.davaracademy.com/business.html

FIN-301 is also available from Davar.

I wouldn't bother to track down the AP tests for ENC102. Take the TECEP for quick & easy RA credit so you have alt-credits available for the Davar course.

The electives in section V can be literally anything. They don't have to have anything to do with your degree. They don't even have to be UL. If, after shuffling things around, you find out that you're actually over your ACE credit allowance, this would be a good place to put a couple of cheap courses from TEL Learning/Olivet/TECEP/etc. to balance out your transcript.

The Technical Communication TECEP does not fill the Oral Communications requirement. TEL Learning offers an inexpensive alternative, though this looks like an excessive amount of work. Olivet offers RA credits for the same price as a TECEP. We don't know yet what the course looks like in comparison to TEL Learning.

[Adah_Alb]

The Walden courses of EDUC1015 and RELG2001 will almost certainly transfer in. But they don't currently have equivalencies in their little transfer catalog (so far as we can see) so it may take a little longer for them to figure out where the classes fit.

You must take the portfolio to get the credit. Thankfully, Davar has MAR-301.  https://www.davaracademy.com/business.html

FIN-301 is also available from Davar.

I wouldn't bother to track down the AP tests for ENC102. Take the TECEP for quick & easy RA credit so you have alt-credits available for the Davar course.

The electives in section V can be literally anything. They don't have to have anything to do with your degree. They don't even have to be UL. If, after shuffling things around, you find out that you're actually over your ACE credit allowance, this would be a good place to put a couple of cheap courses from TEL Learning/Olivet/TECEP/etc. to balance out your transcript.

The Technical Communication TECEP does not fill the Oral Communications requirement. TEL Learning offers an inexpensive alternative, though this looks like an excessive amount of work. Olivet offers RA credits for the same price as a TECEP. We don't know yet what the course looks like in comparison to TEL Learning.

Thank you so much for such a detailed answer!  
I didn't even know about Davar! That's a life saver, because that FINRA thing looks like a nightmare.  

I just realized my Walden credits are from 2015- I can't believe it's been that long. Is there an age limit on transfer credits?  

Thanks again

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The Walden courses of EDUC1015 and RELG2001 will almost certainly transfer in. But they don't currently have equivalencies in their little transfer catalog (so far as we can see) so it may take a little longer for them to figure out where the classes fit.

You must take the portfolio to get the credit. Thankfully, Davar has MAR-301.  https://www.davaracademy.com/business.html

FIN-301 is also available from Davar.

I wouldn't bother to track down the AP tests for ENC102. Take the TECEP for quick & easy RA credit so you have alt-credits available for the Davar course.

The electives in section V can be literally anything. They don't have to have anything to do with your degree. They don't even have to be UL. If, after shuffling things around, you find out that you're actually over your ACE credit allowance, this would be a good place to put a couple of cheap courses from TEL Learning/Olivet/TECEP/etc. to balance out your transcript.

The Technical Communication TECEP does not fill the Oral Communications requirement. TEL Learning offers an inexpensive alternative, though this looks like an excessive amount of work. Olivet offers RA credits for the same price as a TECEP. We don't know yet what the course looks like in comparison to TEL Learning.

I just started digging into Davar and they offer so much!  
Price-wise it seems like it could actually be cheaper than a Study.com membership... but then again I've got no idea how long study.com classes actually take, but I'll be able to dedicate about 2 hours daily on weekdays.

[rachel83az]

IIRC, the limit is 9 years for courses in the AOS. And not all degrees have this restriction. If these are from 2015, you're good.

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I just started digging into Davar and they offer so much!  
Price-wise it seems like it could actually be cheaper than a Study.com membership... but then again I've got no idea how long study.com classes actually take, but I'll be able to dedicate about 2 hours daily on weekdays.

As a warning, Davar and SDC are VERY different models. SDC gives you videos, quizzes, and then tests/assignments. Depending on the course, and the extent of the assignments (if any), you can finish most SDC courses in a week or two. Davar, I believe, just tells you what book to study. Maybe gives you some flashcards? But that's it. You read the book, you take the exam. There's a good chance the Davar courses will take you longer than the same SDC ones.

[dfrecore]

TESU will 100% give you credit for the AP exams, and I would get those sent in - $25 for a transcript. Why spend time/money retaking those, especially when they're a lot of extra work. Best to spend time on other stuff.

AP English: Language & Comp - if you scored a 3 or higher, and took it between 4/1/94-12/31/17, it's worth 6cr for ENC-101 and ENC-102 (Written Communication requirements)
AP Government & Politics: US - if you scored a 3 or higher and took it between 4/1/94-3/31/16, it's worth 3cr for POS-110 (Civic Engagement requirement)

https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/send...ved-scores
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/ap/p...m-2020.pdf

[Adah_Alb]

IIRC, the limit is 9 years for courses in the AOS. And not all degrees have this restriction. If these are from 2015, you're good.

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I just started digging into Davar and they offer so much!  
Price-wise it seems like it could actually be cheaper than a Study.com membership... but then again I've got no idea how long study.com classes actually take, but I'll be able to dedicate about 2 hours daily on weekdays.

As a warning, Davar and SDC are VERY different models. SDC gives you videos, quizzes, and then tests/assignments. Depending on the course, and the extent of the assignments (if any), you can finish most SDC courses in a week or two. Davar, I believe, just tells you what book to study. Maybe gives you some flashcards? But that's it. You read the book, you take the exam. There's a good chance the Davar courses will take you longer than the same SDC ones.

Good to know!  
I'm at a point right now (as much as I hate to admit it) where ease and speed are more important than cost.  I wouldn't put myself through the added stress right now. 
I'm just trying to get it over with.  
I think the plan is fairly solid here to that end, now I guess comes the strategy for order of attack.  
I applied earlier today and thought I'd get the ball rolling on bringing in Walden courses asap to see where they land, and then start with Sophia. I thought maybe knock those out, cancel the membership, then do all the Study.com courses if there's no order requirement from tesu for outside credits.  I'm dreading the TECELS and the Davar because they sound worse from a study and prep perspective. 
I saw someone mention taking courses in a specific order because some take longer to grade and you can only have 2 active at a time, but they didn't go into detail.  
That's def something I'd try to plan for ahead of time.

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TESU will 100% give you credit for the AP exams, and I would get those sent in - $25 for a transcript.  Why spend time/money retaking those, especially when they're a lot of extra work.  Best to spend time on other stuff.

AP English: Language & Comp - if you scored a 3 or higher, and took it between 4/1/94-12/31/17, it's worth 6cr for ENC-101 and ENC-102 (Written Communication requirements)
AP Government & Politics: US - if you scored a 3 or higher and took it between 4/1/94-3/31/16, it's worth 3cr for POS-110 (Civic Engagement requirement)

https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/send...ved-scores
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/ap/p...m-2020.pdf

For sure!  $25 to save time and headache is super worth it to me.  
Question though- I have ENC101 covered with a Walden transfer and I would want to use that because I need the RA credits, but I'd want to cover ENC102 with AP if I can. Will they let me do that?  
I'd hate for them to tell me I have to use all 6 of those AP creds or none.  Any RA creds I can get now are pure gold with this new 90 credit thing.

[rachel83az]

For Sophia, check out these pages on the wiki: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sophia.org and https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/So...lency_List

The ones with touchstones require assignments and grading by an actual person. If there are no touchstones, everything is automatic.

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Also, TESU will automatically have RA credit overwrite alt credit.

[Adah_Alb]

Side question- can anyone give me any insight on the exam processes of the various providers?

Maybe this is a stupid question but are all exams webcam proctored, empty desk policy, and timed?
Any that aren't proctored? I have found that process of logging in, proving that your space is empty, taking everything off your walls, submitting pics of your whole room- it's just a lot. Looking at this for a professional credential and it would suck to do it for every exam. I seem to remember my Walden ones were never like that, but I wasn't trying to earn credit solely by exam either.
Are Davar, TECEPS, CLEP etc similar levels of hassel with the actual testing process?

[dfrecore]

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TESU will 100% give you credit for the AP exams, and I would get those sent in - $25 for a transcript.  Why spend time/money retaking those, especially when they're a lot of extra work.  Best to spend time on other stuff.

AP English: Language & Comp - if you scored a 3 or higher, and took it between 4/1/94-12/31/17, it's worth 6cr for ENC-101 and ENC-102 (Written Communication requirements)
AP Government & Politics: US - if you scored a 3 or higher and took it between 4/1/94-3/31/16, it's worth 3cr for POS-110 (Civic Engagement requirement)

https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/send...ved-scores
https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/ap/p...m-2020.pdf

For sure!  $25 to save time and headache is super worth it to me.  
Question though- I have ENC101 covered with a Walden transfer and I would want to use that because I need the RA credits, but I'd want to cover ENC102 with AP if I can. Will they let me do that?  
I'd hate for them to tell me I have to use all 6 of those AP creds or none.  Any RA creds I can get now are pure gold with this new 90 credit thing.

They actually bring the AP English exam as 2 separate courses, so yes, only bringing in 3cr for ENC-102 can happen.  They'll probably automatically do that, keeping your RA credits.  They don't do it automatically, I've seen them not use RA credits if you have more than 24cr - but if they don't do it correctly, just make sure they fix it ASAP.

[rachel83az]

Side question- can anyone give me any insight on the exam processes of the various providers?  

Maybe this is a stupid question but are all exams webcam proctored, empty desk policy, and timed?
Any that aren't proctored?  I have found that process of logging in, proving that your space is empty, taking everything off your walls, submitting pics of your whole room- it's just a lot. Looking at this for a professional credential and it would suck to do it for every exam. I seem to remember my Walden ones were never like that, but I wasn't trying to earn credit solely by exam either.  
Are Davar, TECEPS, CLEP etc similar levels of hassel with the actual testing process?

CLEP: you must go to a testing center (many of which are closed right now). No other option. 

TECEP/Coopersmith/Straighterline: live proctoring via ProctorU. 

Davar/SDC: RPNow is a recorded proctor. Honestly, I've never had an issue with things on the wall. As long as it's not school-related stuff and it's not directly over your desk, your walls/shelves don't have to be completely bare. 

ASU EA: also uses RPNow. 

Sophia: proctored with biometrics/typing. There is no video proctor. 

TEL Learning: I think it's a live proctor but I can't remember which one they use.