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If a professor has to fail an ENTIRE class, perhaps he is the one who failed.
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I read a number of articles, but none of them had more detail about what happened. Seems like there is an issue with the prof, but this is a senior level major requirement class. If students were going to push a professor like that, I would expect it to be in a freshmen level or some blow off gen ed class.
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I'm reserving judgment until we have more details. I find it hard to believe that EVERY student in the class has been misbehaving. On the other hand....there's crazier stuff that's happened.
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Read the comments:
"Having graduated from there ('86) I can tell you that he's dealing with a tough crowd, including prospective Merchant Mariners in the Cadet Corps. It's no place for the thin skinned. The prof should move on. I recommend UT Austin."
"LOL MBA candidates taking and failing 'Strategic Management' for "disrespect, backstabbing, lying and cheating"? LOL Sounds about right. Right on, right on, Professor Horwitz!"
"Nope, professor is not the problem. The new grads are the problem.
1. They are not team players.
2. They do not want to work hard to climb ladder. They think back stabbing is their way to success.
3. They seem to think that they deserve everything because they have a degree. (BTW I have seen better workers without degree,)
4. They lack organizational and time management skills.
5. They don't take responsibility for their work.
6. They also seem to think business = lying.
Now I am not saying all of them are like that but an awful lot are."
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I would have failed 90% of the students I had at an NA for-profit if I could have because they didn't have the aptitude for college-level work, didn't learn anything in their previous courses, and didn't care about learning anything. Unfortunately, professors and instructors who teach upper level and capstone courses have to deal with the failures of previous professors and instructors. In my case, I taught the last three courses in a certificate program.
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sanantone Wrote:I would have failed 90% of the students I had at an NA for-profit if I could have because they didn't have the aptitude for college-level work, didn't learn anything in their previous courses, and didn't care about learning anything. Unfortunately, professors and instructors who teach upper level and capstone courses have to deal with the failures of previous professors and instructors. In my case, I taught the last three courses in a certificate program.
Why couldn't you?
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defscarlett Wrote:Why couldn't you?
I failed a lot who didn't turn in their work on time. But, for the ones who completed all of their tasks on time, it was very difficult to fail them. They would pressure instructors to pass students who couldn't read or write past the elementary level and didn't understand the concepts. If you did fail a student, then they would have the opportunity to turn in missing assignments and redo others for a passing grade. Sometimes, they would give them two or three months to correct their grade.
One student managed to get through most of the program by cheating. When I had him for the last course in the certificate program, I caught him cheating and assigned him an alternative assignment. Everything he turned in was wrong. He didn't know anything. After revising his assignment a couple of times, it was still mostly wrong. Instead of getting frustrated with the student, the program chair was getting frustrated with me. Apparently, she was helping him, and the answers still weren't right. The school was just terrible all around.
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CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
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Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
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Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
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sanantone Wrote:I failed a lot who didn't turn in their work on time. But, for the ones who completed all of their tasks on time, it was very difficult to fail them. They would pressure instructors to pass students who couldn't read or write past the elementary level and didn't understand the concepts. If you did fail a student, then they would have the opportunity to turn in missing assignments and redo others for a passing grade. Sometimes, they would give them two or three months to correct their grade.
One student managed to get through most of the program by cheating. When I had him for the last course in the certificate program, I caught him cheating and assigned him an alternative assignment. Everything he turned in was wrong. He didn't know anything. After revising his assignment a couple of times, it was still mostly wrong. Instead of getting frustrated with the student, the program chair was getting frustrated with me. Apparently, she was helping him, and the answers still weren't right. The school was just terrible all around.
Oh wow. You gotta love politics.
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FEMA: 20 credit hours, B&M: 33 credit hours, AARTS: 14 credit hours, certifications
ALEKS: Intermediate Algebra, College Algebra
CLEP: Analyzing & Interpret. Literature CLEP - 66, English Composition Modular CLEP - 58, American Government CLEP - 58, Social Sciences & History CLEP - 63
DSST: Intro to Computing DSST - 452
Straighterline: Business Ethics (88%), Criminal Justice (94%), World Religions (93%), Cultural Anthropology (92%), Intro to Sociology (94%)
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