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Road Map for An Old Contracting Lady BSBA
#1
Hello,
I am new to the Forum and I wish that I had stumbled upon you brilliant individuals YEARS AGO!!!! I am a retired military Contracting/Acquisition professional and I am at a standstill in my post military career. Can you at my classes and help me with a road map?
University of Phoenix
GEN/300 SKILLS FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT
MGT/330 MANAGEMENT THEORY, PRACTICE, AND APPLICATION COMM/105 INTRODUCTION TO EFFECTIVE WRITTEN COMMUNICATION SOC/110 TEAMWORK, COLLABORATION, AND CONFLICT RESOLUTION COMM/102 COMMUNICATION SKILLS FOR CAREER GROWTH SCI/220 HUMAN NUTRITION
MTH/208 COLLEGE MATHEMATICS I
MTH/208 COLLEGE MATHEMATICS I
ECO/212 PRINCIPLES OF ECONOMICS
MGT/216 ORGANIZATIONAL ETHICS AND SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY COM/310 COMMUNICATIONS: THEORIES AND PRACTICE
BIS/219 BUSINESS INFORMATION SYSTEMS
PHL/251 CRITICAL THINKING
ACC/280 PRINCIPLES OF ACCOUNTING
COMM/215 ESSENTIALS OF COLLEGE WRITING
FIN/370 FINANCE FOR BUSINESS
COM/285 BUSINESS COMMUNICATIONS
Community College of the Air Force (transcribed from Strayer)
PHE 1000 Physical Education/Wellness
ELC 000 General Elective
3ABR6453 003 Appren Inventory Mgt Specialis
CIS 105 Intro To Info Syst
ELC 000 General Elective
ELC 001 General Elective
ELC 002 General Elective
5ALS9940 002 Airman Leadership School
3ABR6C03 005 Contracting Apprentice
5INT0057 000 Air Force Specialty Internship
ELC 000 General Elective
ELC 001 General Elective
ELC 002 General Elective
ELC 000 General Elective
ELC 001 General Elective
ELC 002 General Elective
Burlington County College
CIS 101 Introduction to Computers
PSY 101 General Psychology
BUA 101 Bus Funct in a Global Societ
BUA 102 Prin of Management
East Mississippi Community Col
MAT 1203 Beginning Alg
Defense Acquisition University
CON 101
CON 104
CON 202
CON 210
CON 204
CON 234
Strayer University
BUS 475 Business And Society
REL 212 World Religions
BUS 309 Business Ethics
BUS 319 Principles Of Federal Acquisit
LEG 100 Business Law I
MKT 100 Prin Of Marketing I


Thanks in advance!!!!!!!!!
#2
Well, it's hard to figure out some, as the courses transcribed from Strayer don't help to see where they would fit on a plan. You should always put in the original source info. You also did not include the number of credits.

BUT, in spite of all of that, it looks like you are well on your way to a BSBA at TESU, with 72cr (or so). I may be off a little, not sure what they will count everything as, but I'll be I'm pretty close. Here's what it looks like you still need (49cr):

WRITTEN COMM: English Comp I & II
ORAL COMM: Public Speaking
DIVERSITY: Sociology/Anthropology
CIVIC ENGAGEMENT: American Government
BSBA REQUIREMENT: College Algebra
BSBA REQUIREMENT: Statistics
BSBA REQUIREMENT: Managerial Accounting
BSBA REQUIREMENT: Microeconomics
CORNERSTONE: must be taken at TESU, $300
CAPSTONE: Strategic Management: must be taken at TESU, can be done as a TECEP exam for $114

And then 5 management courses, 3 must be UL

Check out the Beginner's Guide to see how to do this: http://www.degreeforum.net/general-educa...llege.html
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
#3
Ateetan,

Welcome from a fellow Contracting Professional, and former active duty Air Force CCO! I would highly recommend TESU with a BSBA in Operations Management. I went with TESU and they were able to give me Operations Management Credit for all my CCAF and DAU credits (yes, DAU credits are transferable as college credit, at least some are). Also, you will have managerial communications completed with your airmen leadership school/ncoa courses.

I'm swamped with work and school right now, but if I have a moment, I'll try and hook you up.

PS, are you on linkedin?

EDIT: I have a lot of posts, but if you are able to search some of my older posts, I discuss how my credits transferred over.
CLEPS Passed: 10 DSST Passed: 11 TECEPS: 1

PrLoko-isms
Don't waste time by trying to save time. The only sure way to complete your degree is to knock out credits quickly and efficiently.

Don't let easiness bite you in the rear. Know your endgame (where you want to be) and plan backward from there. Your education is a means to an end.

Be honest professionally, socially and academically. There are people (especially little ones) who look up to you and they're going by your example.

Be proud. Whether you're an Engineer or Fast Food worker, there is honor and dignity in hard work.

Picking on people weaker than you only proves that you are a weak person.
#4
Prloko Wrote:Ateetan,

Welcome from a fellow Contracting Professional, and former active duty Air Force CCO! I would highly recommend TESU with a BSBA in Operations Management. I went with TESU and they were able to give me Operations Management Credit for all my CCAF and DAU credits (yes, DAU credits are transferable as college credit, at least some are). Also, you will have managerial communications completed with your airmen leadership school/ncoa courses.

I'm swamped with work and school right now, but if I have a moment, I'll try and hook you up.

PS, are you on linkedin?

EDIT: I have a lot of posts, but if you are able to search some of my older posts, I discuss how my credits transferred over.

If this is the case, definitely apply at TESU for the BSBA in Ops Management. You can always change your mind later, but it helps when they look closely at the non-traditional credits to fit those into a specific plan first. It's easy enough to switch to Genera Management if you need/want to. And there are ways to get the Ops Management courses you need later - not quite as cheaply as some of the General Management courses, but it won't blow up your budget if you only need a couple of them.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
#5
dfrecore Wrote:If this is the case, definitely apply at TESU for the BSBA in Ops Management. You can always change your mind later, but it helps when they look closely at the non-traditional credits to fit those into a specific plan first. It's easy enough to switch to Genera Management if you need/want to. And there are ways to get the Ops Management courses you need later - not quite as cheaply as some of the General Management courses, but it won't blow up your budget if you only need a couple of them.

The OP has yet to respond, but I'm wagering that since they are a military veteran, that they still have GI Bill benefits left, which in their case, budget is not that important, and it will actually help in the form of a monthly allowance if they actually take courses.
CLEPS Passed: 10 DSST Passed: 11 TECEPS: 1

PrLoko-isms
Don't waste time by trying to save time. The only sure way to complete your degree is to knock out credits quickly and efficiently.

Don't let easiness bite you in the rear. Know your endgame (where you want to be) and plan backward from there. Your education is a means to an end.

Be honest professionally, socially and academically. There are people (especially little ones) who look up to you and they're going by your example.

Be proud. Whether you're an Engineer or Fast Food worker, there is honor and dignity in hard work.

Picking on people weaker than you only proves that you are a weak person.
#6
Thanks for all the replies, I really appreciate your assistance. The impromptu evaluation kind of gave me a blueprint of where I need to go from this point. I am in the beginning of my twenty five day evaluation time and I would like to know if it would be feasible to knock out the following classes through Penn Foster:

ORAL COMM: Public Speaking
CIVIC ENGAGEMENT: American Government
BSBA REQUIREMENT: Statistics
BSBA REQUIREMENT: Managerial Accounting
BSBA REQUIREMENT: Microeconomics

When I applied to the school I picked the General Management route but when I read began reading this forum I realized that OPS would be a better fit. I called the admissions office and was told that a counselor would contact me and make a suggestion for the program that would suit my needs.

My goal is to get this degree finished ASAP so that I can move forward with my career.
#7
Penn Foster courses have to be ACE-approved to be accepted by TESU, since they are a NA school (rather than RA). Normally, people take these particular courses elsewhere, since there are cheaper ways to take them. I've included which are (or are not) ACE-approved, where else you could take them, and bolded where my first choice would be.


ateetan Wrote:Thanks for all the replies, I really appreciate your assistance. The impromptu evaluation kind of gave me a blueprint of where I need to go from this point. I am in the beginning of my twenty five day evaluation time and I would like to know if it would be feasible to knock out the following classes through Penn Foster:

ORAL COMM: Public Speaking - not ACE-approved, available via DSST or SL's Intro to Communications
CIVIC ENGAGEMENT: American Government - not ACE-approved, available via CLEP or SL
BSBA REQUIREMENT: Statistics - not ACE-approved, but Business Stats is instead, or you can do ALEKS ($20/mo), Saylor ($25), DSST, TECEP, or study.com
BSBA REQUIREMENT: Managerial Accounting - yes, also available through TECEP or SL's Accounting II
BSBA REQUIREMENT: Microeconomics - not ACE-approved, available through Saylor, CLEP, or SL

When I applied to the school I picked the General Management route but when I read began reading this forum I realized that OPS would be a better fit. I called the admissions office and was told that a counselor would contact me and make a suggestion for the program that would suit my needs.

My goal is to get this degree finished ASAP so that I can move forward with my career.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
#8
I forgot to add, I've never heard anyone on this forum say that TESU was helpful enough to contact them and tell them that a different degree plan might be a better fit than what they originally wanted. I actually giggled a little at that when I read it. So I would not count on that to get done. I would just contact them again, talk to someone different, and tell them when you applied and that you applied for the wrong degree, and you want to change it. Don't believe them when they say they will contact you about it later - they won't.

Also, if I were you, I would go ahead and take College Algebra. It's required, and I'm 99% sure TESU won't count the College Math course you took as a substitute for it. If you do ALEKS, you can actually complete Intermediate Algebra, College Algebra, and Statistics.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
#9
If you want to finish really quick, then the General Management may be quicker, but not by much. I would like you to post your credits as they show (if you still have them) from your original transcripts, like credits from CCAF as TESU is going to treat them differently than Strayer did. Or you can PM them to me if you aren't comfortable posting here. If TESU already gave you an evaluation, then I think posting that would be even better. I can tell you right now, that the only courses you will have to either transfer in or take at TESU that are unique to the OM concentration is Intro to Operations Management and Quality Assurance. When I did it, I took the Operations Management TECEP exam by studying the recommended college textbook and viewing free videos from Udemy (but others will work). It was multiple choice, so it is doable quickly. The course I took at TESU was Total Quality Management. I thought it was a good course although there was only me and one other student in the course. Everything else was either transferred in, CLEPd, or from CCAF. Any other requirements have exams, courses you can transfer in from outside. Also, did you finish your CCAF degree? The public speaking requirement from CCAF should transfer easily for TESC's Oral Communication requirement.

PS- I sent you a linkedin connect.
CLEPS Passed: 10 DSST Passed: 11 TECEPS: 1

PrLoko-isms
Don't waste time by trying to save time. The only sure way to complete your degree is to knock out credits quickly and efficiently.

Don't let easiness bite you in the rear. Know your endgame (where you want to be) and plan backward from there. Your education is a means to an end.

Be honest professionally, socially and academically. There are people (especially little ones) who look up to you and they're going by your example.

Be proud. Whether you're an Engineer or Fast Food worker, there is honor and dignity in hard work.

Picking on people weaker than you only proves that you are a weak person.


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