Tesc Bsba/human Resources

[nerako]

Hi, I stumbled upon this site accidentally and boy am I happy as a clam that I did! It was the final push I needed to complete my Bachelors degree. I have decided to pursue a the BSBA/HR degree at TESC. So far I paid the $75 app fee to get my credits evaluated..I will be transferring in about 60 credits of mainly GE's to the school and am hoping to do as many CLEPS and DTTS's as I can to satisfy the rest!

I would so greatly appreciate it if anyone on this same track (BSBA/HR) could provide me with the right CLEP/DANTES courses to take that correspond to that program??

Also, if anyone has any insight/advice for a TESC/BSBA/HR/CLEP/DANTIES newbie I would love to hear it!

thanks!

[nerako]

I know someone out there has to be a TESC BSBA/HR or knows something about something??

[bricabrac]

Hello Nerako:

I was enrolled in this program until I realized the limitations on courses accepted. I had already taken quite a few that I could not use before finding out, so I switched to general management. If I had it all to do over, I would have combined the dantes exams with TESC epack/tecep and PF courses.

The remaining core and gen ed is the same as any other BSBA. You can look up sample templates on the forum.

Good luck!
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A: HRM (required)
MAN-331-DE Human Resources Management (DSST)

B: Org Behav (required)
PSY-361-DE Organizational Behavior (DSST)

C: Org T/OrgD (required)
PSY-360-FT Organizational Theory (TESC Flashtrack course)

D: HR/OM electives (9sh) Choose 3 courses:

TESC Options:
LAS 321-TE - Labor Relations and Collective Bargaining (TESC TECEP Exam)
LAS 322-TE - Advanced Labor Relations and Collective Bargaining (TESC TECEP Exam)
COM 210-TE – Public Relations and Thought and Practice (TESC TECEP Exam)
PSY-363-EP - Industrial Psychology (TESC EPack Course)
SOC-361 - Complex Organizations (TESC OL/GS Course)
SOC-362 - Sociology of Work (TESC OL/GS Course)

Penn Foster Options:
HRM-250 Labor Relations
HRM-210 Compensation Management
HRM-250 Training Concepts

Business Electives (9sh) Choose 3 courses:

DSST Exams:
BUS-161-DE Business Mathematics (DSST)
MAN-201-DE Principles of Supervision (DSST)
LAW-201-DE Business Law II (DSST)

TESC Options:
LAS 321-TE - Labor Relations and Collective Bargaining (TESC TECEP Exam)
LAS 322-TE - Advanced Labor Relations and Collective Bargaining (TESC TECEP Exam)
COM 210-TE – Public Relations and Thought and Practice (TESC TECEP Exam)
PSY-363-EP - Industrial Psychology (TESC EPack Course)
SOC-361 - Complex Organizations (TESC OL/GS Course)
SOC-362 - Sociology of Work (TESC OL/GS Course)
MAN-432 - Small Business Management (TESC OL/GS Course)

Straighterline/Penn Foster Options:
Straighterline Managerial Accounting (transcribes as TESC Cost Accounting)
Straighterline Business Communications
Penn Foster Intermediate Accounting I
Penn Foster Consumer Behavior

[ryoder]

If you haven't already, start working on the business core which means management, marketing, macro, micro and business law. These CLEPs are a great way to understand business in general.
Then finish up statistics, accounting I&II and financial management.

Check out the courses offered at Online College Courses - Distance Learning Courses - StraighterLine. For $100 a month and $39 a course, you can take both accounting courses and the business comm required course. They have other courses as well but CLEP courses are sometimes quicker and are also accepted at more colleges than the ACE courses that straighterline.com provides.

For math you can use ALEKS -- Assessment and Learning, K-12, Higher Education, Automated Tutor, Math to get college algebra, pre-calc, intro to statistics and business statistics. For only $20 a month it is a great way to get 12 credits at TESC.

Penn Foster has a few ACE evaluated courses Penn Foster Career School | Self-Paced, Distance Education Programs. I took Financial Management there and finished in a week and there was no proctor.

[nerako]

thanks for the replies...I guess Im just confused. Im not familiar with some of the mentions..What is ALEKS, PF, ACE AND STRAIGTLINER? I thought I was only dealing with CLEPS AND DTTS/DANTES?

BRICBRAC, when you said there were limitations to what of your credits were accepted, were you referring to CLEPS/DANTES or credits youd taken at another school? if youre referring to CLEPS or DANTES, which ones wouldnt they accept?

Thanks everyone

[bricabrac]

thanks for the replies...I guess Im just confused. Im not familiar with some of the mentions..What is ALEKS, PF, ACE AND STRAIGTLINER? I thought I was only dealing with CLEPS AND DTTS/DANTES?

BRICBRAC, when you said there were limitations to what of your credits were accepted, were you referring to CLEPS/DANTES or credits youd taken at another school? if youre referring to CLEPS or DANTES, which ones wouldnt they accept?

Thanks everyone

I'm sorry but I'm studying for a very important exam so will answer this briefly and hope that you will use the forums "search" function to dig deeper for information.

You cannot complete the HR degree with only DSST and CLEP. The only DSST/CLEP exams that are approved within the area of study are listed in my post. I've also listed for you the courses (TESC and Penn Foster) that are approved to meet the specific HR requirements. I did not know only certain courses could be used for HRM electives and mistakenly took other business courses. Once I found out it was too late and instead of trashing the credits I already earned I changed my degree program to General Management.

You might want to go to tesc and take a look at the HRM degree program. You will see I laid out the options for the specialized area both required and electives for you.

The rest you can fill in by searching other BSBA templates on the forum.


Good luck and Hope this helps!

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I'm now cutiing and pasting from my other postss:

Aleks ALEKS -- Assessment and Learning, K-12, Higher Education, Automated Tutor, Math is an independent method some of here use to meet our math requirements. Intermediate Algebra, College Algebra, Precalculus, Statistics. Sign up as an independent student, and the work is done online from the comfort of your home utilizing Mathway: Math Problem Solver. Once you complete assessment at 70% or better you transfer to ACE https://www2.acenet.edu/credit/?fuseacti...ripts.main
then send ACE transcript to TESC. Aleks is $20/month and ACE to join $40 includes first transcript. After $15 per transcript request.
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Penn Foster = PF

Independent students sign up for these courses by contacting the Industrial/Business # 1-800-233-0259
http://www.workforcedevelopment.com/index.html
http://www.pennfostercollege.edu/college-catalog.html
I like PF courses because they are very fast to complete. Open book and the quizzes/final are not timed. It is completely at your own pace = no stress.

Here are a few of the popular Penn Foster individual courses you can sign up for yourself on the website: http://www.pennfostercollege.edu/cat-courses.html
- Financial Management transfers to TESC as FIN301 Principles of Finance
- Business & Technical Writing*
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Straighterline= SL

Used to complete accounting I & II, macro & micro economics, and or business communications*

If you complete the course within one month it is $99 monthly fee +39 course. There are some promo coupons avaialble if you search
Online College Courses - Distance Learning Courses - StraighterLine
http://www.straighterline.com/partner-colleges/transfer-college-credits-to-thomas-edison-state-college.cfm
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* You can use either PF business & tech writing or SL business communications to fill the required managerial/business communications course at TESC

[bricabrac]

Okay, so I borrowed from an existing BSBA template adding the HR/OM specifics to hopefully make this easier for you, or anyone else interested in this degree plan, to use as a guide.

Human Resources/Organizational Management, BSBA


I. General Education Requirements - 60 credits


A. English Composition - 6 credits
College Composition General CLEP (6)

B. Humanities - 12 credits
Managerial Communications TESC GS/OL Course or Business & Tech Writing PF or Bus Communications SL (3)
Analyzing & Interpreting Literature - CLEP (6)
Technical Writing - DSST (3)

C. Social Sciences - 12 credits
Macroeconomics - CLEP (3)
Microeconomics - CLEP (3)
Introductory Sociology - CLEP (3)
Introductory Psychology - CLEP (3)

D. Natural Sciences & Mathematics - 9 credits
Precalculus - CLEP or ALEKS (3)
Principles of Statistics - DSST or ALEKS (3)
Natural Sciences - CLEP (3) [partial credit]

E. General Education Electives - 21 credits
Intro to Criminal Justice - DSST (3)
College Mathematics – CLEP (6)
Lifespan Development Psychology - DSST (3)
Natural Sciences - CLEP (3) [partial credit]
Social Sciences & History - CLEP (6)

II. Professional Business Requirements - 54 credits

A. Business Core - 27 credits
Financial Accounting - CLEP (3)
Managerial Accounting - Straighterline Accounting II (3)
Introductory Business Law - CLEP (3)
Intro to Computing - DSST (3)
Principles of Finance - DSST (3)
Principles of Management - CLEP (3)
Principles of Marketing - CLEP (3)
Business Ethics in Society - DSST (3)
Business Policy - TECEP (3)

B. Area of Study: Human Resources/Organizational Management - 18 credits

Human Resource/Org Mgmt Required:
Human Resources Management (DSST)
Organizational Behavior (DSST)
Organizational Theory (TESC Flashtrack course)


Human Resource/Org Mgmt Electives: Choose any 3 from the list below

• TESC Options:

[INDENT]Labor Relations and Collective Bargaining (TECEP Exam)
Advanced Labor Relations and Collective Bargaining (TECEP Exam)
Public Relations and Thought and Practice (TECEP Exam)

Industrial Psychology (EPack Course)
Complex Organizations (OL/GS Course)
Sociology of Work (OL/GS Course)
Small Business Management (OL/GS Course)


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• Penn Foster Options:

[INDENT]Labor Relations (HRM-250)
Compensation Management (HRM-210)
Training Concepts (HRM-250)


[/INDENT]C. Business Electives - 9 credits

Business Mathematics - DSST (3)
Principles of Supervision - DSST (3)
Intro to Business - DSST (3)

III. Free Electives - 6 credits
Personal Finance - DSST (3)
Intermediate Algebra - ALEKS (3)

[nerako]

Thanks BricaBrac, this will be very helpful. I have most if not all GE's done already..I didnt realize I wouldnt be able to test out of the rest...waiting for my transfer credit eval...then I can start mapping out my plan..

All this better be worth it! Im trying to specialize in HR hoping to land an HR job but it seems at least in the current economy, entry level HR jobs all want HR experience first.

Thanks again!

[ryoder]

Nerako I would do TESC courses as your last option due to cost and length of time to complete.
Consider Penn Foster courses and Straighterline courses your first option for anything that you cannot CLEP out of or as a fall back for a CLEP/DSST that you have failed.

Most of the PennFoster courses can be completed in about a week or two depending on how much time you spend. They are typically unproctored with no timed exams. Some of them have a single proctored test at the end with anyone you designate as your proctor. They cost about 300 dollars and come with books.

Straighterline has no proctored tests, is very inexpensive and is also a great option. Some of the SL courses have a 40 minute timed chapter test for each chapter and 2hr long finals so they can take a while to complete but are open book.

ALEKS -- Assessment and Learning, K-12, Higher Education, Automated Tutor, Math has no proctored tests and is a great learning tool and a way to get statistics credit along with some other college algebra and pre-calc credit. It is also very cheap.

TESC also has TECEP tests which cost around 300 for an enrolled student and are similar to a paper CLEP with some short answer and essay at the end. The capstone business course is a TECEP test and there are other TECEPs to take.


Good luck and don't wait for your eval to come back to start if you know you need a certain course such as business communication at straighterline.com.
Go read about the course on their site, buy the book used and when you get the book in the mail, sign up for the course. I got the book for about 10 dollars shipped on amazon.com as a used and one revision earlier version.

You can knock out a bunch of credits without even leaving the house.

[nerako]

thats great info..are you sure TESC accepts Straightliner, ALEKS and Penn Foster? On their website I thought I only read that they accept CLEP/DTTS?

Im also hearing that in order to get a GPA on your transcript you must take at least ONE course at TESC? is that right? if so, I guess Ill be taking a course there since I feel like alot of employers will want to know GPA.