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TESU BA in Liberal Arts Diploma Plan
#1
Hey all!  I was wondering if anyone here happened to have a downloadable copy of diploma plan/roadmap for a BA in Liberal Arts at TESU?  I was originally looking at HR Management at WGU because of cost, but I’m definitely considering TESU at this point since I really just want my degree to be in Liberal Arts and trying to knockout my roadmap.  I did try to download the generic template from a past post, but the link just provides and 404 Error message, so I thought I would ask on here.
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Sophia: Student Success, Developing Effective Teams (1), The Ess. of Managing Conflict (1) Institutes: Ethics/CPCU Code of Professional Conduct (3) TEEX: Cybersecurity 101 (4), Cybersecurity 201 (4), Cybersecurity 301 (4), Basic Property Technician (3), Death Investigation Online (3) CSM: Quant (3) ModernStates/CLEP: College Composition (6)
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TEEX: Foundations of Fingerprint Comparison (3)
CLEP: Analyzing & Interpreting Literature (6)
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Goal: BALS with a concentration in Social Sciences at TESU
Credits: 32

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#2
So TESU is no longer the cheapest for Liberal Arts. If money is important to you I'd suggest COSC or EC or a Liberal Arts degree. However, the benefit of TESU is they are the easiest to plan and require the least UL courses.

As for templates they are all over the sites, but in the meantime, TESU Liberal arts degrees require 27 credits of Free Electives. This can be coursework in literally anything. I believe COSC and EC might even have more free electives. My point is if you have no credits, just start earning anything it will count for a degree. Start with some of the free credits from Sophia, TEEX and institutes. Also, CSM learn course is amazing only $39 and changed the way I view Math.
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#3
(07-16-2019, 02:36 PM)natshar Wrote: So TESU is no longer the cheapest for Liberal Arts.  If money is important to you I'd suggest COSC or EC or a Liberal Arts degree. However, the benefit of TESU is they are the easiest to plan and require the least UL courses.

As for templates they are all over the sites, but in the meantime, TESU Liberal arts degrees require 27 credits of Free Electives. This can be coursework in literally anything. I believe COSC and EC might even have more free electives. My point is if you have no credits, just start earning anything it will count for a degree. Start with some of the free credits from Sophia, TEEX and institutes. Also, CSM learn course is amazing only $39 and changed the way I view Math.

Thanks for the info!  I checked COSC, but I couldn’t find a Liberal Arts, so it may be Excelsior, but I hear they are the most expensive.  I’m currently almost finished with the free Sophia courses and used my $50 from them to buy the Student Success course.  After that, I’ll knock out TEEX.  Also, which other free courses are there besides the ones on the Wiki page?  I apologize for asking, but what site is CSM?
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Sophia: Student Success, Developing Effective Teams (1), The Ess. of Managing Conflict (1) Institutes: Ethics/CPCU Code of Professional Conduct (3) TEEX: Cybersecurity 101 (4), Cybersecurity 201 (4), Cybersecurity 301 (4), Basic Property Technician (3), Death Investigation Online (3) CSM: Quant (3) ModernStates/CLEP: College Composition (6)
———————IN PROGRESS/STARTING SOON————————
TEEX: Foundations of Fingerprint Comparison (3)
CLEP: Analyzing & Interpreting Literature (6)
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Goal: BALS with a concentration in Social Sciences at TESU
Credits: 32

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#4
https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/2017-...tudies.php

https://www.csmlearn.com/product/course

free ethics course: https://www.theinstitutes.org/guide/ethi...al-conduct (I think this is the right link it might not be, but choose the free option not the $5 option)

Other than that, there are no other free courses that I know of.


As of July 2019, EC is cheaper than TESU, but EC has an annual service fee and you pay it upfront, so you shouldn't enroll until you are almost done. But there are not too many EC students on this forum but there might be more now that TESU increased their rates. Also, with Excelsior you can transfer in 116/117 credits vs 114 at TESU. But I hear soon Excelsior will require a 3 credit cornerstone in 2020.

https://www.excelsior.edu/costs-and-fina...rgraduate/
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#5
(07-16-2019, 04:57 PM)natshar Wrote: https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/2017-...tudies.php

https://www.csmlearn.com/product/course

free ethics course: https://www.theinstitutes.org/guide/ethi...al-conduct (I think this is the right link it might not be, but choose the free option not the $5 option)

Other than that, there are no other free courses that I know of.


As of July 2019, EC is cheaper than TESU, but EC has an annual service fee and you pay it upfront, so you shouldn't enroll until you are almost done. But there are not too many EC students on this forum but there might be more now that TESU increased their rates. Also, with Excelsior you can transfer in 116/117 credits vs 114 at TESU. But I hear soon Excelsior will require a 3 credit cornerstone in 2020.

https://www.excelsior.edu/costs-and-fina...rgraduate/

Oh heck, I really hope they don’t require a 3-credit cornerstone.  If they do, I’ll just stick with Charter Oak.  I honestly can’t thank you enough for answering all of my obnoxious question & providing incredible information to find things, as all of this is a lot to take in.  In regards to these free courses, how do I tell which ones will be of use at COSC?  I’m assuming the two free ones from Sophia count towards Electives then?  I doubt the Student Success course will do anything, but I will knock that one out after and start the Ethics course.  How good is CSM with properly explaining Math?  With my ADHD, Math is incredibly overwhelming and is my worst subject.
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Sophia: Student Success, Developing Effective Teams (1), The Ess. of Managing Conflict (1) Institutes: Ethics/CPCU Code of Professional Conduct (3) TEEX: Cybersecurity 101 (4), Cybersecurity 201 (4), Cybersecurity 301 (4), Basic Property Technician (3), Death Investigation Online (3) CSM: Quant (3) ModernStates/CLEP: College Composition (6)
———————IN PROGRESS/STARTING SOON————————
TEEX: Foundations of Fingerprint Comparison (3)
CLEP: Analyzing & Interpreting Literature (6)
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Goal: BALS with a concentration in Social Sciences at TESU
Credits: 32

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#6
(07-16-2019, 05:35 PM)BrighterFuture88 Wrote:
(07-16-2019, 04:57 PM)natshar Wrote: https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/2017-...tudies.php

https://www.csmlearn.com/product/course

free ethics course: https://www.theinstitutes.org/guide/ethi...al-conduct (I think this is the right link it might not be, but choose the free option not the $5 option)

Other than that, there are no other free courses that I know of.


As of July 2019, EC is cheaper than TESU, but EC has an annual service fee and you pay it upfront, so you shouldn't enroll until you are almost done. But there are not too many EC students on this forum but there might be more now that TESU increased their rates. Also, with Excelsior you can transfer in 116/117 credits vs 114 at TESU. But I hear soon Excelsior will require a 3 credit cornerstone in 2020.

https://www.excelsior.edu/costs-and-fina...rgraduate/

Oh heck, I really hope they don’t require a 3-credit cornerstone.  If they do, I’ll just stick with Charter Oak.  I honestly can’t thank you enough for answering all of my obnoxious question & providing incredible information to find things, as all of this is a lot to take in.  In regards to these free courses, how do I tell which ones will be of use at COSC?  I’m assuming the two free ones from Sophia count towards Electives then?  I doubt the Student Success course will do anything, but I will knock that one out after and start the Ethics course.  How good is CSM with properly explaining Math?  With my ADHD, Math is incredibly overwhelming and is my worst subject.

Excelsior currently has a 1 credit cornerstone that is self-paced and pass/fail. You can transfer it but I think it has to be from an actual class, not alternative credit. In 2020 they are probably going to have the same type of 3 credit cornerstone as TESU.

Charter Oak and TESU both have 3 credit cornerstones that are graded college courses and not self-paced.

CSM is amazing!! They take it one step at a time and it self paced so you can stop if you get overwhelmed and come back later. You get a free trial which is for 2 hours but after that, it is only $39 which is a steal. The software is ingenious and works with you. Just try it you have nothing to lose.

TESU is about $3k more than COSC I believe (I could be wrong on this, anyone know for sure?)
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#7
COSC calls their general degree "General Studies" you can have your concentration in Liberal Studies - here is the page that shows what concentrations (including the Liberal Studies) that you can earn credits through the alternative methods we talk about here - https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/2017-...ations.php

COSC is lower cost overall currently, but they do require more UL credits (near twice as many - likely not be a problem at all to find with Liberal Studies) so you'll want to make sure you have a good working plan.
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#8
(07-16-2019, 05:46 PM)natshar Wrote:
(07-16-2019, 05:35 PM)BrighterFuture88 Wrote:
(07-16-2019, 04:57 PM)natshar Wrote: https://www.charteroak.edu/catalog/2017-...tudies.php

https://www.csmlearn.com/product/course

free ethics course: https://www.theinstitutes.org/guide/ethi...al-conduct (I think this is the right link it might not be, but choose the free option not the $5 option)

Other than that, there are no other free courses that I know of.


As of July 2019, EC is cheaper than TESU, but EC has an annual service fee and you pay it upfront, so you shouldn't enroll until you are almost done. But there are not too many EC students on this forum but there might be more now that TESU increased their rates. Also, with Excelsior you can transfer in 116/117 credits vs 114 at TESU. But I hear soon Excelsior will require a 3 credit cornerstone in 2020.

https://www.excelsior.edu/costs-and-fina...rgraduate/

Oh heck, I really hope they don’t require a 3-credit cornerstone.  If they do, I’ll just stick with Charter Oak.  I honestly can’t thank you enough for answering all of my obnoxious question & providing incredible information to find things, as all of this is a lot to take in.  In regards to these free courses, how do I tell which ones will be of use at COSC?  I’m assuming the two free ones from Sophia count towards Electives then?  I doubt the Student Success course will do anything, but I will knock that one out after and start the Ethics course.  How good is CSM with properly explaining Math?  With my ADHD, Math is incredibly overwhelming and is my worst subject.

Excelsior currently has a 1 credit cornerstone that is self-paced and pass/fail. You can transfer it but I think it has to be from an actual class, not alternative credit. In 2020 they are probably going to have the same type of 3 credit cornerstone as TESU.

Charter Oak and TESU both have 3 credit cornerstones that are graded college courses and not self-paced.

CSM is amazing!! They take it one step at a time and it self paced so you can stop if you get overwhelmed and come back later. You get a free trial which is for 2 hours but after that, it is only $39 which is a steal. The software is ingenious and works with you. Just try it you have nothing to lose.

TESU is about $3k more than COSC I believe (I could be wrong on this, anyone know for sure?)

Awesome!  I’ll nab CSM as soon as I start my math-related courses.  Would you happen to know if the 3 courses/10 credits from TEEX count in any way towards electives at COSC?  I’m really about to start those up soon enough, but if they don’t transfer, then I won’t waste my time.
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Sophia: Student Success, Developing Effective Teams (1), The Ess. of Managing Conflict (1) Institutes: Ethics/CPCU Code of Professional Conduct (3) TEEX: Cybersecurity 101 (4), Cybersecurity 201 (4), Cybersecurity 301 (4), Basic Property Technician (3), Death Investigation Online (3) CSM: Quant (3) ModernStates/CLEP: College Composition (6)
———————IN PROGRESS/STARTING SOON————————
TEEX: Foundations of Fingerprint Comparison (3)
CLEP: Analyzing & Interpreting Literature (6)
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Goal: BALS with a concentration in Social Sciences at TESU
Credits: 32

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#9
Most computer science courses come into COSC as Non-Liberal Arts.

One of the good things with COSC - they allow a BSLS in addition to the BALS that TESU allows. That means that instead of 75% liberal arts courses, you can do 50%. So depending on what you have your courses in (or want to get) you could do a lot more business or other non-LA courses at COSC.

Also, they do bring in some Study.com courses that are LL as UL (and I'm sure it goes for LL courses from other schools/providers as well) - meaning you still might end up doing the same number of UL courses as at TESU.

I find that COSC is pretty easy to plan once you figure out how their degree plans work. 1) meet all of the GE requirements, using UL courses if possible (for instance, use Advanced Tech Writing to knock out your English Comp II requirement, if you were already going to take English Comp II as a course, it's not any extra work to do tech writing, and you get your UL at the same time; use an UL US History course to do your US History requirement; use an UL course to do your Global Understanding requirement; etc.). 2) plan your concentration; get those UL credits in there using LL courses if you can; 3) plan the rest of your UL credits, using LL courses if possible; 4) get that lab science requirement met (Study.com's Bio w/Lab is your cheapest option).

If you do everything step-by-step and maximize your UL, you can easily plan out your degree with them.
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(07-17-2019, 04:19 AM)dfrecore Wrote: Most computer science courses come into COSC as Non-Liberal Arts.

One of the good things with COSC - they allow a BSLS in addition to the BALS that TESU allows.  That means that instead of 75% liberal arts courses, you can do 50%.  So depending on what you have your courses in (or want to get) you could do a lot more business or other non-LA courses at COSC.

Also, they do bring in some Study.com courses that are LL as UL (and I'm sure it goes for LL courses from other schools/providers as well) - meaning you still might end up doing the same number of UL courses as at TESU.

I find that COSC is pretty easy to plan once you figure out how their degree plans work.  1) meet all of the GE requirements, using UL courses if possible (for instance, use Advanced Tech Writing to knock out your English Comp II requirement, if you were already going to take English Comp II as a course, it's not any extra work to do tech writing, and you get your UL at the same time; use an UL US History course to do your US History requirement; use an UL course to do your Global Understanding requirement; etc.). 2) plan your concentration; get those UL credits in there using LL courses if you can; 3) plan the rest of your UL credits, using LL courses if possible; 4) get that lab science requirement met (Study.com's Bio w/Lab is your cheapest option).

If you do everything step-by-step and maximize your UL, you can easily plan out your degree with them.

First off, thank you so much for taking the time to explain that to me.  If you don’t mind me asking, what does UL & LL stand for?  I apologize if that is a really dumb question, but when I search it up, I can’t seem to find an explanation anywhere, or I pull up colleges with those initials.  

If you don’t mind me asking, do you happen to have a diploma plan/roadmap for COSC Liberal Arts by any chance?  For now, I’m going to do what you & others have suggested and just knock out all of my general education courses, then I’ll move on from there.  

Now, if I decide to transfer over my credits to COSC before I have my Bachelor’s credits finished so that I can get my Associates for work-related purposes, would I be allowed to transfer more credits after I am enrolled?  I know WGU doesn’t allow that, but I didn’t know if all colleges were like that, as well.
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Sophia: Student Success, Developing Effective Teams (1), The Ess. of Managing Conflict (1) Institutes: Ethics/CPCU Code of Professional Conduct (3) TEEX: Cybersecurity 101 (4), Cybersecurity 201 (4), Cybersecurity 301 (4), Basic Property Technician (3), Death Investigation Online (3) CSM: Quant (3) ModernStates/CLEP: College Composition (6)
———————IN PROGRESS/STARTING SOON————————
TEEX: Foundations of Fingerprint Comparison (3)
CLEP: Analyzing & Interpreting Literature (6)
———————————————————————————————
Goal: BALS with a concentration in Social Sciences at TESU
Credits: 32

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