EUCLID University?

[FireMedic_Philosopher]

Assuming for a moment that it is real, but possibly not established enough for everyone's liking...
There were two flags for me. Call them orange if not red...

1) If the UN really operates the school, I figured it would be based either out of NYC where the headquarters is, or in Vienna where the backup site is located, or barring that in Nairobi Kenya, where the new UN Africa HQ is going up.

2) If the UN really operates the school, wouldn't they advertise the hell out of it, and by extension, wouldn't it be considered one of the best in the world... at least by a certain category of politicians?

[Maltus]

Assuming for a moment that it is real, but possibly not established enough for everyone's liking...
There were two flags for me. Call them orange if not red...

1) If the UN really operates the school, I figured it would be based either out of NYC where the headquarters is, or in Vienna where the backup site is located, or barring that in Nairobi Kenya, where the new UN Africa HQ is going up.

2) If the UN really operates the school, wouldn't they advertise the hell out of it, and by extension, wouldn't it be considered one of the best in the world... at least by a certain category of politicians?

Well Euclid University does not claim to be run by UN. The legal base seems to be an intergovrnmental Meomrandum and contract, which is registered with the UN. You can find it here: https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/...-49007.pdf

Euclid gives this info freely, so there is no red flag for me here: https://www.euclid.int/legal.asp
So Euclid seems to be a legit University - in the countries participating! But of course that doesn't tell anything about recognicion in other countries. That would make me think twice before persuing a degree there.

[eLearner]

... But of course that doesn't tell anything about recognicion in other countries. That would make me think twice before persuing a degree there.

That can be said about almost every foreign school. There is no guarantee an FCE is going to evaluate a foreign degree to U.S. standards no matter where you get it from with the exception of maybe Oxford or Cambridge. And even then, with some of the foolishness I've seen from evaluators you still might run into problems.

[Stanislav]

Assuming for a moment that it is real, but possibly not established enough for everyone's liking...
There were two flags for me. Call them orange if not red...

1) If the UN really operates the school, I figured it would be based either out of NYC where the headquarters is, or in Vienna where the backup site is located, or barring that in Nairobi Kenya, where the new UN Africa HQ is going up.

2) If the UN really operates the school, wouldn't they advertise the hell out of it, and by extension, wouldn't it be considered one of the best in the world... at least by a certain category of politicians?

The UN does not run it; it is run by a group of people on behalf of 11 small countries that signed a treaty. For all I know, if you're a government employee in say Burundi, Euclid degree may be prestigious. Actually, if we knew more about how this school is perceived in those countries, it would shed a light on its value as a degree source.

[Maltus]

... But of course that doesn't tell anything about recognicion in other countries. That would make me think twice before persuing a degree there.

That can be said about almost every foreign school. There is no guarantee an FCE is going to evaluate a foreign degree to U.S. standards no matter where you get it from with the exception of maybe Oxford or Cambridge. And even then, with some of the foolishness I've seen from evaluators you still might run into problems.

Well no you can't be certain what some Evaluators will do. But there is Anabin in Germany. A government-run database on evaluated foreign degrees and universitys. If you find the school in that base as H+ (fully accrediated) you should have no problem in any EU-Memberstate with a degree from that school.
Sadly EUCLID doesn't seem to be in that database.

[Stanislav]

... But of course that doesn't tell anything about recognicion in other countries. That would make me think twice before persuing a degree there.

That can be said about almost every foreign school. There is no guarantee an FCE is going to evaluate a foreign degree to U.S. standards no matter where you get it from with the exception of maybe Oxford or Cambridge. And even then, with some of the foolishness I've seen from evaluators you still might run into problems.

True. However, there is more confidence in degrees from countries with established educational systems, as opposed to places like CAR. Another potential strike is when a school from one country mysteriously gets accreditation in another; in addition to St. Regis, there is a new crop of mystery schools with accreditation from Kyrgyzstan. I'd avoid those. Another example is all the private colleges accredited in Malta; Woolf would be one example. Those degrees are, IMO, recognized, but not 100% bulletproof.  With Euclid, there were some second-hand accounts of people getting favorable FCE reports in US on another forum, but I haven't seen anyone with first-hand account.

I actually know 2 examples of US degrees facing obstacles abroad. One is Ashworth College in Canada. A close friend of mine got a degree in ECE from there, and the local regulator refused to accept it, citing WES Canada report. In that case, we cited their own rules and threatened to sue, so she got her credential; the regulator then promptly changed the rules to explicitly require "regionally accredited" equivalency from WES. Bastards.
Another one was a young man trying to get into a Master's program in Germany with an RA degree. Anabin rejected him because part of his program was at a private, unaccredited hospitality school in Switzerland, and they didn't recognized those credits even though the RA college had articulation agreement. Again, I strongly disagree with this logic, but some official Genosse in Germany wasn't interested in arguing. Again, bastards.

[FireMedic_Philosopher]

I actually know 2 examples of US degrees facing obstacles abroad. One is Ashworth College in Canada. A close friend of mine got a degree in ECE from there, and the local regulator refused to accept it, citing WES Canada report. In that case, we cited their own rules and threatened to sue, so she got her credential; the regulator then promptly changed the rules to explicitly require "regionally accredited" equivalency from WES. Bastards.

With the US now getting rid of National and Regional accreditation titles, I wonder how that would play out.

[Stanislav]

I actually know 2 examples of US degrees facing obstacles abroad. One is Ashworth College in Canada. A close friend of mine got a degree in ECE from there, and the local regulator refused to accept it, citing WES Canada report. In that case, we cited their own rules and threatened to sue, so she got her credential; the regulator then promptly changed the rules to explicitly require "regionally accredited" equivalency from WES. Bastards.

With the US now getting rid of National and Regional accreditation titles, I wonder how that would play out.

I wonder too but won't be surprised it will change nothing. WES is its own obnoxious thing. Also, Ontario Racket College of Early Childhood Educators oversees a profession that pays little and requires a 2-year college diploma, yet somehow has smaller percentage of foreign-trained members than their counterparts for law and medicine. This is in a province with tons of immigrants (majority in Toronto) and shortage of daycare spaces. Miserable bastards.