ENEB Master Thread

[cacoleman1983]

While the other university is legitimate, the programs from ENEB are not recognized by degree-granting institutions.

People, it's 300 bucks, you get what you pay for, if you want to teach or use it in any other way than as a novelty, I would just not do that.

The first part is not correct. The specific degrees ENEB offers through Isabel I are granted by Isabel I, and are recognized by RUCT - not just Isabel I as a school, but the actual degrees are listed on the RUCT website. They are real. These degrees can be used without issue for employment and visa purposes throughout Europe (Gernamy's Anabin database lists Isabel I as H+ status, which means all their degrees are good to go, while TESU is listed as H+/-, which means they recognize some degrees but not others). Under the EQF framework, there is at least the possibility that you can transfer credits earned through ENEB to another European school (and vice-versa, if you wanted to) and as previously mentioned, an ENEB Master's carries an EQF 7 rating (out of 8, 8 being doctoral level education).

The second part is at least partially correct: it looks like you could not use this degree to teach or pursue a doctorate, at least in Spain. Other European countries may not recognize the distinction that Spain puts in place for these private degrees. Pretty sure that would be a case by case, country by country thing.

The issue with this ENEB/Isabel I degree is in an American context. As far as we know, it has not been evaluated by a credential service like WES. Unitl it is, all that we can do is speculate as to how it would be received.

The difference between the American and European higher education systems, both in credentialing and cost, is pretty wild. We see a masters degree for $300 and automatically think it's a scam, because in an American context, it absolutely would be. It being advertised on Groupon really, *really* doesn't help. But public universities in Germany don't charge tuition at all, most of them, and in other countries like Estonia, you might pay only 900 Euros a year for tuition - and that's for butt-in-seat learning, not a mostly-automated online program like this one. 

If you're looking at using this degree outside the US, especially in Europe, and you understand the limitations of it, I can't really see a reason not to pursue it - unless the agreement between ENEB and Isabel I suddenly gets terminated before you complete the program.

If you want to use it in the US, you're buying a $300 lottery ticket until WES or or another evaluation service actually, you know, evaluates it.

Well it's complicated to make a decision either way but overall it's still a good deal.    I don't need another Masters but I would do this for professional development training.  It's perfect to see it as a professional certification for $300.   If someone is able to use it as a degree, it's practically free.  I will wait till a WES or NACES report it as accredited.  I've contacted WES already about ENEB/Universidad Isabel I.   Another option would be to transfer these credits into another European university that is government approved that will be marked as equivalent to regional accreditation here in the USA.