Academic honesty question

[sanantone]

I don't think there is anything unethical about reusing your own work. I attended several colleges and only one used plagiarism software. That one school that used Turnitin allowed students to reuse their own work. All you had to do was explain to the instructor that you used work from another class when Turnitin matched an abnormal amount of content.

[andrewtn]

Hey if they can force students to buy the latest version of $100+ textbooks that only have a few changes then we should likewise be able to reuse our own work with a few modifications. It's only fair right?

Personally I'd do it and sleep like a baby but if you feel there is an ethical question then I would simply ask for permission. It shouldn't hurt to ask and if the situation makes you uncomfortable then simply ask for permission.

[trubeedoo2]

The APA manual considers this plagarism. If you write on paper for a class then use it for another class it's plagarism. You can use parts of your paper as a citation but usually not more then 20%.

[andrewtn]

The APA manual considers this plagarism. If you write on paper for a class then use it for another class it's plagarism. You can use parts of your paper as a citation but usually not more then 20%.

Sigh .. Apparently this is correct. It's called self-plagiarism. Apparently there are a couple definitions of plagiarism.

Merriam-Webster
Plagiarize - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Definition of PLAGIARIZE

transitive verb
: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source

intransitive verb
: to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source

[sanantone]

Hey if they can force students to buy the latest version of $100+ textbooks that only have a few changes then we should likewise be able to reuse our own work with a few modifications. It's only fair right?

Personally I'd do it and sleep like a baby but if you feel there is an ethical question then I would simply ask for permission. It shouldn't hurt to ask and if the situation makes you uncomfortable then simply ask for permission.

I would sleep like a baby too, but if the school doesn't allow it, I guess it doesn't matter. Stemming from what CLEP3705 said, I think it's inefficient to redo a bunch of work just to come to the same conclusion. I also think it's dumb to have to take a stance on a position that you normally wouldn't take just so that you won't "plagiarize" yourself.

[Publius]

How big is the paper? I'd submit the one to the first class,and read your paper a few times. Then, take an hour and just rewrite the paper. You already 1) originally came up the paper, 2) have reread/edited it multiple times. You got the info in your head, it's all YOUR info, it won't turn out the SAME paper, you wouldn't be reusing a paper (just an idea/thesis) and doesn't require much extra work. That's what I would do.

[mrs.b]

How big is the paper? I'd submit the one to the first class,and read your paper a few times. Then, take an hour and just rewrite the paper. You already 1) originally came up the paper, 2) have reread/edited it multiple times. You got the info in your head, it's all YOUR info, it won't turn out the SAME paper, you wouldn't be reusing a paper (just an idea/thesis) and doesn't require much extra work. That's what I would do.

This. That's exactly what I've done a few time with no repercussions. Also, when you do the initial research for the first paper, keep a list of all the resources you found marginally relevant and considered for inclusion, not just the bibliography page of resources actually used in the first version of the paper. Seed a different resource or two in for a bit more flavor and variation, and you'll have clearly different papers while spending only a fraction of the time on the second since the research is already done, and you've already got a format in your head of how to lay it on paper coherently.

As for the debate of ethics, no two people will have the exact same moral and ethical metrics, because we've all had different drivers to form our personal scales. It's no big deal that each of us have different comfort zones in what is and is "right" or "wrong." That is what keeps the world interesting. Heck, if that were not the case, I wouldn't have a job. There would be no need for ethical oversight, compliance checks, etc...
hilarious

[bluebooger]

I'm taking two classes this summer, a Cultural Anthro class and Comp II. They both require a research paper at the end of the semester. Is there anything unethical about using the same paper for both classes?


Thanks.

I can almost guarantee that is plagiarism

you are not turning in original work for the 2nd class
you are turning in a copy of something

most schools will fail you for that

[clep3705]

Academicians reuse their own work so they can get multiple publications out of the same work instead of only one. If they can do that and get tenure for it, their students should be able to do the same.

If I say anything else here, I might plagiarize myself, so I'll stop now.

References in APA format:

clep3705. (12, June 2013). things to disagree on. Retrieved from http://www.degreeforum.net/general-educa...stion.html

[Westerner]

Academicians reuse their own work so they can get multiple publications out of the same work instead of only one. If they can do that and get tenure for it, their students should be able to do the same.

If I say anything else here, I might plagiarize myself, so I'll stop now.

References in APA format:

clep3705. (12, June 2013). things to disagree on. Retrieved from http://www.degreeforum.net/general-educa...stion.html

Oh my goodness...too funny milelol: :roflol: But seriously, this sounds good:

How big is the paper? I'd submit the one to the first class,and read your paper a few times. Then, take an hour and just rewrite the paper. You already 1) originally came up the paper, 2) have reread/edited it multiple times. You got the info in your head, it's all YOUR info, it won't turn out the SAME paper, you wouldn't be reusing a paper (just an idea/thesis) and doesn't require much extra work. That's what I would do.