Aleks Intro to Stats... Is it UL at Excelsior????

[benmartorano]

I am a liberal Arts Major at Excelsior. I took and passed the ALEKS Intro to Stats Course. I was under the impression that it was a UL course for Lib Arts major but they are showing it as a LL course on my transcript.

Anyone know whats up with this??

[Exfactor]

I recently ran into problems with this during my degree conferral, along with another Aleks course. I was told that Intro to Stats is now LL, previously is was UL; however, after the re-accredition process with ACE, from this past december, such is now LL. However, my advisor gave me UL credit for it, due to me completing the course close to the change. However, wanting to do the right thing, I just went ahead and spent all day yesterday completing Statistics for the Behavioral Sciences, as its UL, along with Business Statistics, which are the only UL stats courses. So at Excelsior only Business Statistics and Statistics for the Behavioral Sciences are the only courses you can get UL credit for; however, you can only get credit for one stats course at EC with Aleks.

You can view the LL status of Intro to Stats here:

ACE CREDIT | The National Guide to College Credit for Workforce Training

[cookderosa]

so sorry,I know that class feels too hard to be lower level but it is.

[geissingert]

That's great passing on your initial assessment. Stats has been torture for my kids. Wish I knew an easier way to help them to understand it. What did you use to study? One passed 3 math sin one day. The other did 2 in a day and took a few days for the other.

[JohnnyHeck]

Stats is not hard. It just takes time to absorb the concepts. It is totally unlike any course wherein all you have to do is cram/memorize facts and regurgitate them for credit. Just because you can breeze through some courses because of some past experience and/or talent is no reason to believe that you should be able to master stats just as easily. Now, I will have to admit that I believe that math teachers make the subject much harder than it is because they have a talent for mathematical symbology that is different from most folks. The stumbling block for almost all regular people are the concepts and formulae regarding conditional probability. Well, it was 50 years after John Snow demolished the Humor theory of medicine using just descriptive stats before inferential probability was added to the subject. So why anyone can believe that they should "get it" in 8 hours our less is rather mind boggling to me. But truth be told, you do not need the mathematician's jargon to master inferential stats. Try this: Statistical Reasoning | Open Learning Initiative Yes, this course will take 80 hours to get through it, but that is still half the time of an in-seat course not including travel time. Stop fighting the fact that each concept takes some pondering thought time and just do it. Good luck.

[cookderosa]

Stats is not hard. It just takes time to absorb the concepts. It is totally unlike any course wherein all you have to do is cram/memorize facts and regurgitate them for credit. Just because you can breeze through some courses because of some past experience and/or talent is no reason to believe that you should be able to master stats just as easily. Now, I will have to admit that I believe that math teachers make the subject much harder than it is because they have a talent for mathematical symbology that is different from most folks. The stumbling block for almost all regular people are the concepts and formulae regarding conditional probability. Well, it was 50 years after John Snow demolished the Humor theory of medicine using just descriptive stats before inferential probability was added to the subject. So why anyone can believe that they should "get it" in 8 hours our less is rather mind boggling to me. But truth be told, you do not need the mathematician's jargon to master inferential stats. Try this: Statistical Reasoning | Open Learning Initiative Yes, this course will take 80 hours to get through it, but that is still half the time of an in-seat course not including travel time. Stop fighting the fact that each concept takes some pondering thought time and just do it. Good luck.

+1
You have to allow time to develop intuition. Like growing tomatoes. Besides fertilizer, water and good weather, there is still a fundamental clock that follows. I can tell you with certainty I didn't log enough math hours as a kid. My oldest didn't either, but I've caught that and have corrected it with my youngers.