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Have you heard of Nexford University
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(06-10-2021, 11:41 AM)Johann Wrote: ss20ts: "f they have international students in Nigeria and other areas of subsaharan Africa then NA or RA probably doesn't matter and they'll overjoyed with a degree from an American university"

No, they won't be - particularly the NUC (Nigerian Universities Commission.) If it's unaccredited, or they deem its degree-granting procedures to be substandard or insufficient - they'll BAN it and use of the degrees would carry a severe penalty. (They once banned ALL distance degrees - any school - but that has since been relaxed.)

You could have problems in quite a few African countries. If you're planning to risk this kind of trouble, at least DON'T do it in Nigeria! Generally, if the degree isn't recognized here, it very well might not be, in Africa. 

And yes, I agree with ss20ts on this:  I, too, get the impression that Nexford is run by people who may be much more familiar with running businesses other than education ventures. I hope they can adapt.

Well they're actually pursuing students in Nigeria. The whole article talks about Nigeria over and over. Maybe they have some deal with the government? 

I understand colleges are a business, but it's not like running a Fortune 500 company. There's soooo many regulations - nationally, state wise (NC-SARA), and the various accreditations. Your customers are your students. They don't care about dividends. They care about completing their courses usually quickly and for as little as possible. A CEO running a university is just weird. 

It is an interesting concept. Uof People has an interesting concept but is poorly developed. These out of the box schools really do have great ideas but need serious work on their execution. Hopefully that comes over time but they need to move quickly because they will earn a bad reputation quickly.
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(06-10-2021, 11:49 AM)rachel83az Wrote: I think the educational system would be so much better if more schools were "run like businesses" than like schools. Yes, schools are mostly in it for the profits (even the non-profit ones) but they tend to treat it like students don't have any choice. If you don't want to pay tens of thousands in tuition & fees then that's just too bad. No degree for you. Now, people on this forum realize that isn't the case. But, with the vast majority, students don't realize that they actually have viable options.

Yes. Competition=good. But any shortcomings in specific product knowledge = bad. Producing and selling education is different from producing and selling tablet computers, financial products, pharmaceuticals etc. All specialized - all different. 

You have to have business savvy AND specialized knowledge / skillset for education. Nexford people have good business skills. Let's see if they can rapidly get to warp speed in the specialized world of higher ed - their product. I wish them success.

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(06-09-2021, 02:42 PM)ss20ts Wrote:  Don't put much wait on that USDOE ruling. It was made during the last administration and nothing has really changed.

The change of terms is official and it's not going to change back, nor should it. That day is over. Schools are slooooowly changing their language to match it, it will take time but eventually it will likely become the norm. It was necessary and long overdue for the USDOE to communicate what it did to help work toward reversing what has led to generations of ridiculous misconceptions and discrimination against holders of degrees from NA schools. Besides, with many NA schools having achieved the same programmatic accreditations as RA schools now (some even achieving ones many RA schools haven't been able to, like Grantham achieving ABET), and because distance learning has knocked down the regional barriers that made national accreditation necessary in the first place, supporting the old system no longer makes sense.

It's was a dying dog that needed to be put down.

(06-10-2021, 11:49 AM)rachel83az Wrote: I think the educational system would be so much better if more schools were "run like businesses" than like schools. Yes, schools are mostly in it for the profits (even the non-profit ones) but they tend to treat it like students don't have any choice. If you don't want to pay tens of thousands in tuition & fees then that's just too bad. No degree for you. Now, people on this forum realize that isn't the case. But, with the vast majority, students don't realize that they actually have viable options.

Well said.

What's unfortunate is that the alternative options are usually attacked and that discourages people from trying them. Look at how people attack even low-cost NA schools that are doing things right, Spanish Propio's, and even programs like Straighterline. We've seen people report that some schools deem ACE courses and credits as scams. To us it seems crazy, but there are millions of people who see no problem with spending a life's fortune on degrees that will get them to the same place some of these alternatives will.

(06-10-2021, 11:52 AM)ss20ts Wrote: A CEO running a university is just weird. 

Ehn. That's only because of the title, but the function of a CEO and a non-profit school President is a lot more alike than a non-profit school would ever legally admit. Knowing that made me stop caring about the CEO title being used.
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