Need some advice

[saraholson]

Straighterline is not all open book finals any more. It would only be micro and macro that i could take through them; Principles of Finance isn't available, I would have to take that through Study.com (which I already failed once). Macro and Micro at SL are both closed book.

Then for the business capstone, from what I have read, I have to do business case studies (not regular essays), which is the type of writing I am weakest at. I have gotten bad grades on every business case study essay i have had to write at Study.com. My worry is that i would fail the capstone or get such a low grade that my GPA would be awful. If i only had to worry about micro, macro and finance - i could take them over and over until i passed. But even if i pass them, i have to struggle through the business capstone. I am not worried about ANY type of capstone, just the business one.

Those are my main points that cause me to want to change degrees.

The other is that it does not matter what degree I get; I only need some type of bachelors degree in order to be able to apply for specific state jobs. A business degree won't really help me in my current career (and my current career isn't something I would like to keep doing).

Meanwhile I am working full time and struggling with depression.

I just want something attainable that I know I can complete. It doesn't matter to me if it takes longer, i just want to know i can succeed.

[dfrecore]

Straighterline is not all open book finals any more. It would only be micro and macro that i could take through them; Principles of Finance isn't available, I would have to take that through Study.com (which I already failed once). Macro and Micro at SL are both closed book.

Then for the business capstone, from what I have read, I have to do business case studies (not regular essays), which is the type of writing I am weakest at. I have gotten bad grades on every business case study essay i have had to write at Study.com. My worry is that i would fail the capstone or get such a low grade that my GPA would be awful. If i only had to worry about micro, macro and finance - i could take them over and over until i passed. But even if i pass them, i have to struggle through the business capstone. I am not worried about ANY type of capstone, just the business one.

Those are my main points that cause me to want to change degrees.

The other is that it does not matter what degree I get; I only need some type of bachelors degree in order to be able to apply for specific state jobs. A business degree won't really help me in my current career (and my current career isn't something I would like to keep doing).

Meanwhile I am working full time and struggling with depression.

I just want something attainable that I know I can complete. It doesn't matter to me if it takes longer, i just want to know i can succeed.

Honestly, I didn't think the case studies were hard at TESU, that was the best part of my grade, and the part that I liked the best.  But, if the material isn't interesting to you, then it will be a real slog.

I suggest you ask TESU if you can switch to the BSPS w/o changing the catalog.  If yes, then you may want to look up the capstone and make sure you're good with it (looks like there are no case studies, but I'd double-check).

If no, then I'd definitely make the switch to COSC.  I might even if the BSPS was available, just for cost and time alone.

You might also talk to someone who's gone to COSC, and find out what the process is for getting your capstone approved. BUT, one of the examples they use on here is "Business/Communications" so I can't imagine you're going to have a hard time getting that approved if you choose it.

[HogwartsSchool]

Straighterline is not all open book finals any more. It would only be micro and macro that i could take through them; Principles of Finance isn't available, I would have to take that through Study.com (which I already failed once). Macro and Micro at SL are both closed book.

Then for the business capstone, from what I have read, I have to do business case studies (not regular essays), which is the type of writing I am weakest at. I have gotten bad grades on every business case study essay i have had to write at Study.com. My worry is that i would fail the capstone or get such a low grade that my GPA would be awful. If i only had to worry about micro, macro and finance - i could take them over and over until i passed. But even if i pass them, i have to struggle through the business capstone. I am not worried about ANY type of capstone, just the business one.

Those are my main points that cause me to want to change degrees.

The other is that it does not matter what degree I get; I only need some type of bachelors degree in order to be able to apply for specific state jobs. A business degree won't really help me in my current career (and my current career isn't something I would like to keep doing).

Meanwhile I am working full time and struggling with depression.

I just want something attainable that I know I can complete. It doesn't matter to me if it takes longer, i just want to know i can succeed.

Having recently completed the BSBA capstone at TESU, here is the course breakdown.

1.  7 business case studies (1000-1100 words per case study, all APA style) account for 35% of the final grade. 
2.  The midterm (10 questions plus 4 written essays during the proctored exam) account for 25% of the final grade.
3.  Final paper (3500 to 5000 words, all APA style) account for 20% of the final grade.
4.  Weekly discussions (12 total), (each post is usually around 250-400 words and follow up comments from other posters) account for 15% of the final grade.
5.  ETS profile test, account for 5% of the final grade.

[saraholson]

Straighterline is not all open book finals any more. It would only be micro and macro that i could take through them; Principles of Finance isn't available, I would have to take that through Study.com (which I already failed once). Macro and Micro at SL are both closed book.

Then for the business capstone, from what I have read, I have to do business case studies (not regular essays), which is the type of writing I am weakest at. I have gotten bad grades on every business case study essay i have had to write at Study.com. My worry is that i would fail the capstone or get such a low grade that my GPA would be awful. If i only had to worry about micro, macro and finance - i could take them over and over until i passed. But even if i pass them, i have to struggle through the business capstone. I am not worried about ANY type of capstone, just the business one.

Those are my main points that cause me to want to change degrees.

The other is that it does not matter what degree I get; I only need some type of bachelors degree in order to be able to apply for specific state jobs. A business degree won't really help me in my current career (and my current career isn't something I would like to keep doing).

Meanwhile I am working full time and struggling with depression.

I just want something attainable that I know I can complete. It doesn't matter to me if it takes longer, i just want to know i can succeed.

Honestly, I didn't think the case studies were hard at TESU, that was the best part of my grade, and the part that I liked the best.  But, if the material isn't interesting to you, then it will be a real slog.

I suggest you ask TESU if you can switch to the BSPS w/o changing the catalog.  If yes, then you may want to look up the capstone and make sure you're good with it (looks like there are no case studies, but I'd double-check).

If no, then I'd definitely make the switch to COSC.  I might even if the BSPS was available, just for cost and time alone.

You might also talk to someone who's gone to COSC, and find out what the process is for getting your capstone approved. BUT, one of the examples they use on here is "Business/Communications" so I can't imagine you're going to have a hard time getting that approved if you choose it.

I found this thread from this year: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...stone-COSC

Looks like i would end up paying at least 2 semester's worth of fees. However, reading about COSC's capstone it sounds like it would be so much more interesting. It sounds like you get a project approved (of your choosing) in the 1st term and the 2nd term, you create that project.

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Looking at Excelsior, they are more expensive but they also have a BS in Liberal Arts. It also looks like they require a $1000 fee up front (!!!) though, is that their equivalent of a residency waiver?

[dfrecore]

Straighterline is not all open book finals any more. It would only be micro and macro that i could take through them; Principles of Finance isn't available, I would have to take that through Study.com (which I already failed once). Macro and Micro at SL are both closed book.

Then for the business capstone, from what I have read, I have to do business case studies (not regular essays), which is the type of writing I am weakest at. I have gotten bad grades on every business case study essay i have had to write at Study.com. My worry is that i would fail the capstone or get such a low grade that my GPA would be awful. If i only had to worry about micro, macro and finance - i could take them over and over until i passed. But even if i pass them, i have to struggle through the business capstone. I am not worried about ANY type of capstone, just the business one.

Those are my main points that cause me to want to change degrees.

The other is that it does not matter what degree I get; I only need some type of bachelors degree in order to be able to apply for specific state jobs. A business degree won't really help me in my current career (and my current career isn't something I would like to keep doing).

Meanwhile I am working full time and struggling with depression.

I just want something attainable that I know I can complete. It doesn't matter to me if it takes longer, i just want to know i can succeed.

Honestly, I didn't think the case studies were hard at TESU, that was the best part of my grade, and the part that I liked the best.  But, if the material isn't interesting to you, then it will be a real slog.

I suggest you ask TESU if you can switch to the BSPS w/o changing the catalog.  If yes, then you may want to look up the capstone and make sure you're good with it (looks like there are no case studies, but I'd double-check).

If no, then I'd definitely make the switch to COSC.  I might even if the BSPS was available, just for cost and time alone.

You might also talk to someone who's gone to COSC, and find out what the process is for getting your capstone approved. BUT, one of the examples they use on here is "Business/Communications" so I can't imagine you're going to have a hard time getting that approved if you choose it.

I found this thread from this year: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...stone-COSC

Looks like i would end up paying at least 2 semester's worth of fees. However, reading about COSC's capstone it sounds like it would be so much more interesting. It sounds like you get a project approved (of your choosing) in the 1st term and the 2nd term, you create that project.

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Looking at Excelsior, they are more expensive but they also have a BS in Liberal Arts. It also looks like they require a $1000 fee up front (!!!) though, is that their equivalent of a residency waiver?

That's for the BSBA capstone, you're not taking that, you'd be taking the BSLS (BALS) capstone instead.  And yes, you'd need 2 terms: 1 for the cornerstone and 1 for the capstone, but the cost is only $266 + $68 per term w/the Study.com or SL 10% discount.  So it's not like TESU's $2,800 Residency Waiver, which is the reason it's so much cheaper at COSC.

[saraholson]

Straighterline is not all open book finals any more. It would only be micro and macro that i could take through them; Principles of Finance isn't available, I would have to take that through Study.com (which I already failed once). Macro and Micro at SL are both closed book.

Then for the business capstone, from what I have read, I have to do business case studies (not regular essays), which is the type of writing I am weakest at. I have gotten bad grades on every business case study essay i have had to write at Study.com. My worry is that i would fail the capstone or get such a low grade that my GPA would be awful. If i only had to worry about micro, macro and finance - i could take them over and over until i passed. But even if i pass them, i have to struggle through the business capstone. I am not worried about ANY type of capstone, just the business one.

Those are my main points that cause me to want to change degrees.

The other is that it does not matter what degree I get; I only need some type of bachelors degree in order to be able to apply for specific state jobs. A business degree won't really help me in my current career (and my current career isn't something I would like to keep doing).

Meanwhile I am working full time and struggling with depression.

I just want something attainable that I know I can complete. It doesn't matter to me if it takes longer, i just want to know i can succeed.

Honestly, I didn't think the case studies were hard at TESU, that was the best part of my grade, and the part that I liked the best.  But, if the material isn't interesting to you, then it will be a real slog.

I suggest you ask TESU if you can switch to the BSPS w/o changing the catalog.  If yes, then you may want to look up the capstone and make sure you're good with it (looks like there are no case studies, but I'd double-check).

If no, then I'd definitely make the switch to COSC.  I might even if the BSPS was available, just for cost and time alone.

You might also talk to someone who's gone to COSC, and find out what the process is for getting your capstone approved. BUT, one of the examples they use on here is "Business/Communications" so I can't imagine you're going to have a hard time getting that approved if you choose it.

I found this thread from this year: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...stone-COSC

Looks like i would end up paying at least 2 semester's worth of fees. However, reading about COSC's capstone it sounds like it would be so much more interesting. It sounds like you get a project approved (of your choosing) in the 1st term and the 2nd term, you create that project.

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Looking at Excelsior, they are more expensive but they also have a BS in Liberal Arts. It also looks like they require a $1000 fee up front (!!!) though, is that their equivalent of a residency waiver?

That's for the BSBA capstone, you're not taking that, you'd be taking the BSLS (BALS) capstone instead.  And yes, you'd need 2 terms: 1 for the cornerstone and 1 for the capstone, but the cost is only $266 + $68 per term w/the Study.com or SL 10% discount.  So it's not like TESU's $2,800 Residency Waiver, which is the reason it's so much cheaper at COSC.

The thread title is about the business capstone, but further along someone says:

"For Individualized Studies and Liberal Studies, you have to do the 2 part capstone. I believe all of the other majors have a one part capstone. I am in the 2nd part of the Individualized Studies Business Capstone now. Part 1 of the capstone class is 5 weeks long and the goal is to get a capstone project approved. Part 2 of the capstone class is 10 weeks long and the goal is to produce the approved project from part 1. They say that you need to be within 9 credits of graduating to add the class. "

then...

"If you are planning on doing the Individualized Studies or Liberal Studies track, you need to plan on paying the students fees for at least 2 semesters. There is no way around it since you can not take the cornerstone at the same time as the capstone and the capstone for these majors are 15 weeks longs put together. I did the cornerstone term 1 of the spring semester, the first capstone part in session 3 of the spring semester, and the second capstone class during the summer semester. I had to pay the student fees twice."

[LevelUP]

Why not just tell TESU that you want to do both degrees the BSBA and the BA liberal arts? Just add the liberal arts to your degree plan.

That way both catalogs are locked in and then you just drop the one you don't want in the end.

[natshar]

Why not just tell TESU that you want to do both degrees the BSBA and the BA liberal arts?  Just add the liberal arts to your degree plan.

That way both catalogs are locked in and then you just drop the one you don't want in the end.

If op adds a ba liberal arts it will be on the 2019 catalog which includes sos-110. Their current bsba does not require it. This would mean an extra $1000 and 12 weeks.

Tesu has some weird thing where if you change schools (or add a degree from another school) it is on the newest catalog. However one can switch between any degree in the same school and the catalog remains the same. Meaning op could can change to a different bsba. However all bsbas require econ, stats, etc.

[LevelUP]

Straighterline is not all open book finals any more. It would only be micro and macro that i could take through them; Principles of Finance isn't available, I would have to take that through Study.com (which I already failed once). Macro and Micro at SL are both closed book.

With Straighterline you just gotta fight your butt off to average at least 80% on the quizzes.  Then you only need like a 46% on the final to pass.  On the final, they don't ask too many graph questions.

CTR+ C to copy, CTR + V to paste and quote for "search term" is your best friend to search through the book fast. 

I'm going to try my luck with Principles of Finance at Saylor.  It appears to be mostly math based.  I'll post a study guide for you guys if I get through it.

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Why not just tell TESU that you want to do both degrees the BSBA and the BA liberal arts?  Just add the liberal arts to your degree plan.

That way both catalogs are locked in and then you just drop the one you don't want in the end.

If op adds a ba liberal arts it will be on the 2019 catalog which includes sos-110. Their current bsba does not require it. This would mean an extra $1000 and 12 weeks.

Tesu has some weird thing where if you change schools (or add a degree from another school) it is on the newest catalog. However one can switch between any degree in the same school and the catalog remains the same. Meaning op could can change to a different bsba. However all bsbas require econ, stats, etc.

Good to know I can switch my BSBA concentration if I want. 

I had though in Saraholson's situation, you could add a degree which would be on the new catalog and still keep your old degree on the same catalog?

Which still strongly favors completing the BSBA to avoid the cornerstone sos-110.

[HogwartsSchool]

Why not just tell TESU that you want to do both degrees the BSBA and the BA liberal arts?  Just add the liberal arts to your degree plan.

That way both catalogs are locked in and then you just drop the one you don't want in the end.

If op adds a ba liberal arts it will be on the 2019 catalog which includes sos-110. Their current bsba does not require it. This would mean an extra $1000 and 12 weeks.

Tesu has some weird thing where if you change schools (or add a degree from another school) it is on the newest catalog. However one can switch between any degree in the same school and the catalog remains the same. Meaning op could can change to a different bsba. However all bsbas require econ, stats, etc.

sos-110 is required even if you remain using an older catalog. TESU changed their policy in July, 2019, ALL. students are required to take sos-110 even using an older catalog and no matter the type of (associates and bachelors).