Any hope for an old guy with old credits?

[davewill]

There's always the Georgia Tech MS in Computer Science and MS in Data Science to consider. The pricing is attractive, but they're very serious programs and you'll spend the full amount of time working through them. From a resume point of view, just the bachelor's should give you a bit of a boost, and you can put the MS degree on there aa in progress, getting some of the benefits before you even finish. It can even become a good conversation subject during an interview, discussing the coursework, and knowledge you're gaining at GT.

[ColePalmer]

With the amount and type of credits you already have, you’d be a strong fit for a BSBA in General Management, BA in Liberal Studies, or possibly a BS in Information Technology at TESU. 
The BSBA is great if you want something structured but broad. Liberal Studies gives you the most flexibility and fastest path to graduation. If you’d like to keep your tech background somewhat relevant, the BS in IT could also work, though it may require a few updated courses.
TESU’s flexibility with older credits makes all three realistic options. Hope you are having a great day.

[bjcheung77]

I'm not seeking upper management, just looking for something more presentable than the AS I have now. I guess it's tempting because I never even considered getting a master's before, yet it seems attainable. I sat with an associate's for 25+ years, so just getting the bachelor's would be great and may be sufficient. One other factor is that I'm an older gentleman now, so I'm wondering in the job market if it may help somewhat to stick a master's on the resume (also thinking of some of those job descriptions I see that mention bachelor's required, master's preferred).

You have 14 classes remaining, you can complete some of them with Sophia.org/Study.com combo, you need 10 classes at UMPI. As I mentioned earlier, take the classes that can't be transferred in and the 4 that is required for the MAOL. This way, you can do the MAOL for $2350 in one session. You can then add the HAU MBA for $3K to finish off your Masters studies, having 2 RA Masters in the end for under 6K!

[papab1980]

I'm not seeking upper management, just looking for something more presentable than the AS I have now. I guess it's tempting because I never even considered getting a master's before, yet it seems attainable. I sat with an associate's for 25+ years, so just getting the bachelor's would be great and may be sufficient. One other factor is that I'm an older gentleman now, so I'm wondering in the job market if it may help somewhat to stick a master's on the resume (also thinking of some of those job descriptions I see that mention bachelor's required, master's preferred).

You have 14 classes remaining, you can complete some of them with Sophia.org/Study.com combo, you need 10 classes at UMPI.  As I mentioned earlier, take the classes that can't be transferred in and the 4 that is required for the MAOL.  This way, you can do the MAOL for $2350 in one session.  You can then add the HAU MBA for $3K to finish off your Masters studies, having 2 RA Masters in the end for under 6K!

I was able to do one Sopia so far (health/fitness).  I'm trying one or two more, but not sure I'll have them done before the session starts in July.  But at least I'm down to 13 classes now.

From what they're telling me, I wouldn't be able to squeeze in 4 MAOL equivalent classes, only one.  This is because they said I need these 8 electives:

Eng 121
Eng 211 OR Art 108
Eng 151 OR Hum 184 OR Art 211
Bio 105 OR HPR 101
Geo 101 OR Soc 100 OR Swk 105
Hty 115 OR Hty 116 OR Hty 161 OR Hty 162
Fre 101 OR Spa 101
Pos 101 OR 211 OR 332

and these 6 MIS minor courses:

Bus 200 Intermediate Business Computing
Bus 244 Management Information Systems
Bus 245 Programming for Managers
Bus 345 Database Management Systems
Bus 359 IT Project Management
Bus 440 Business Analytics

Only one of those (440) would go toward the MAOL.

So that would leave 11 classes left to take for the MAOL.  Since I'd be doing it part-time, isn't it unlikely to get those 11 done in one session?

If I needed two or more sessions to get through those 11 classes, shouldn't I instead consider something like WGU for under $5K to get an MS in Data Analytics or MS in IT Management (assuming those could be attained part-time in one term, maybe that's a big assumption), or even just go with the $4K HAU MBA alone (that's if I just wanted to check the master's box)?

[bjcheung77]

I'm curious about the HAU MBA. As our current discussion is getting a bit lengthy, do you think it's OK to start a new thread asking for people's thoughts about (and recent experiences with) the HAU MBA? It seems appropriate as a new message, but I don't do a lot of posting on forums, so didn't want to be one of those guys that starts too many threads. Thanks

Got your PM, you can do a search in regards to HAU, there are a few threads already. In brief, they're a good RA MBA at $3K with the scholarship, I would get it before that scholarship runs out...

I was able to do one Sopia so far (health/fitness).  I'm trying one or two more, but not sure I'll have them done before the session starts in July.  But at least I'm down to 13 classes now.

From what they're telling me, I wouldn't be able to squeeze in 4 MAOL equivalent classes, only one.  This is because they said I need these 8 electives:

Eng 121
Eng 211 OR Art 108
Eng 151 OR Hum 184 OR Art 211
Bio 105 OR HPR 101
Geo 101 OR Soc 100 OR Swk 105
Hty 115 OR Hty 116 OR Hty 161 OR Hty 162
Fre 101 OR Spa 101
Pos 101 OR 211 OR 332

and these 6 MIS minor courses:

Bus 200 Intermediate Business Computing
Bus 244 Management Information Systems
Bus 245 Programming for Managers
Bus 345 Database Management Systems
Bus 359 IT Project Management
Bus 440 Business Analytics

Only one of those (440) would go toward the MAOL.

So that would leave 11 classes left to take for the MAOL.  Since I'd be doing it part-time, isn't it unlikely to get those 11 done in one session?

If I needed two or more sessions to get through those 11 classes, shouldn't I instead consider something like WGU for under $5K to get an MS in Data Analytics or MS in IT Management (assuming those could be attained part-time in one term, maybe that's a big assumption), or even just go with the $4K HAU MBA alone (that's if I just wanted to check the master's box)?

No, we're on the exact same page but looking at things differently, you decide how you want to proceed with things your way... I still don't see where the disconnect is, the classes you're referring to (the mentioned 8) can all be transferred in. My previous post already listed the 6 you take from them, plus the 4 MAOL. That's all there is to it, please re-read if you missed that part. Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...#pid440391

[papab1980]

Ah, thanks for the clarification. I thought you were implying the 4 MAOL equivalents would be part of the 14 total classes I'll need for the BLS (not in addition to). The three extra MAOL equivalents would bring me up to 17 classes. I'm down to 16 with the Sophia I took, and I might be able to slip in one more Sophia before July (bringing it down to 15). If I finish the other BLS requirements and still have time within that session, I'll try to take those other 3 MAOL ones. If I run out of time and can't take those 3, I'll consider all options (including HAU if it's still available at $3K at that time).

[LevelUP]

If I went with TESU and they got it down to only the 2 courses needed, I think it would be more like $7,000 for those 6 credits (with the Edison Accelerate fee).

You can reduce the CS degree requirements to just one remaining course, the capstone. For the cornerstone, you can take the edX course.

I would at least apply to TESU and see where you stand before committing to UMPI.

[CreativeLearner]

I'll ask about the BAS.  I only have an AS degree, though (not AAS), and the AAS is supposed to be a requirement for the BAS?

Would a BLS degree from UMPI considered lightweight?  If a BLS in Management or BLS in MIS would transfer a bunch more credits, is that worth considering?

For the BAS ask for an exception because you have 59 tech credits and you believe that might be a better fit. Emphasize they are from Purdue University.

The BLS in MIS should definitely transfer in more in as it is a very flexible degree program.

These schools want students and making it clear that you want to find a way to transfer in 90 credits out of 123 RA credits as a working adult is a very reasonable argument.

I also reorganized your 123 RA credits so people can see what I am talking about clearer.

ENG 131 ELEM COMPOSITION I 3.0 A
ENG 220 TECH REPORT WRITING 3.0 A
ENG 423 TECH PUBLICA WRITING 3.0 A

COMM 110 FUNDAMENTAL SPEECH COM 3.0 B

ECON 210 PRIN OF ECONOMICS 3.0 A

MATH 125 BUSINESS MATH I 3.0 A
MATH 126 BUSINESS MATH II 3.0 B
MATH 151 ALGEBRA & TRIGONOMETRY 5.0 C

PHIL 110 INTRO TO PHILOSOPHY 3.0 A
PHIL 324 ETHICS FOR PROFESSIONS 3.0 B

PSY 104 PSYCH AS A SOCIAL SCI 3.0 A
PSY 105 PSYCH BIOLOGICAL SCI 3.0 B
PSY 361 HUMAN DEV I INFANCY 3.0 A
PSY 373 PSYCHOLOGY IN INDUSTRY 3.0 A

MGMT 200 INTRO ACCOUNTING 3.0 A
MGMT 225 FUND MANAGERIAL STAT 3.0 A
SPV 374 SUPERVISORY MANAGEMENT 3.0 A

CHEM C105 PRIN OF CHEMISTRY I 5.0 C
CHEM C106 PRIN OF CHEMISTRY II 5.0 B
GEOG G390 TOPICS IN GEOGRAPHY 1.0 A

CIS 204 INTRO COMP-BASED SYS 3.0 A
CIS 210 PERSONAL COMP TECH 3.0 A
CIS 232 ASSEM LANG PROG I 4.0 A
CIS 251 COMMERCIAL SYSTEMS 3.0 A
CIS 252 SYSTEMS ANALY DESIGN 3.0 A
CIS 253 APPL DATABASE TECHNIQ 3.0 C
CIS 260 STRUCTURED PROGRAMMING 4.0 B
CIS 261 RPG PROGRAMMING 3.0 A
CIS 265 COBOL PROGRAMMING 3.0 B
CIS 286 COMPTR OPER SYSTMS I 3.0 A
CIS 301 DATA & FILE STRUCTURES 3.0 A
CIS 355 DBMS IMPLEMENTATION 3.0 B
CIS 365 TOPICS IN COBOL 3.0 A
CIS 373 DISTRIBUTED DP SYSTEMS 3.0 A
CIS 383 ON LINE PROG TECHNIQUE 3.0 A
CIS 388 LAN TECHNOLOGY 3.0 A
CIS 423 STRUCT SYSTEMS ANLY 3.0 A
CIS 426 APPL SOFTWARE DEV PROJ 3.0 A
CIS 490 LAN ADMINISTRAT 3.0 A

(59 TECH CREDITS)

You also have 43 UL credits so IMO you should already have a bachelors degree.

If I worked for TESU I would just hand you a degree.

Ha, thank you!  That's kind of how I felt, but it's pretty deflating when school after school wants you to start over like you only had 4 semesters of school behind you.  It still looks good on paper to me, but as it's a lot of old stuff, it's been a challenge to show the credits have any value.

I recently transferred in a TON of old computer and software type classes to TESU. Like you, when I tried to transfer these credits elsewhere, I was met with the "these are far too old" story. Granted mine are not quite as old as yours but still had a good bit as old as 20 years. TESU took virtually all of them! They were very generous in how they applied them and it was really validating and encouraging to see them mean something again after constantly having them dismissed.

[Ares]

I'm not seeking upper management, just looking for something more presentable than the AS I have now. I guess it's tempting because I never even considered getting a master's before, yet it seems attainable. I sat with an associate's for 25+ years, so just getting the bachelor's would be great and may be sufficient. One other factor is that I'm an older gentleman now, so I'm wondering in the job market if it may help somewhat to stick a master's on the resume (also thinking of some of those job descriptions I see that mention bachelor's required, master's preferred).

You have 14 classes remaining, you can complete some of them with Sophia.org/Study.com combo, you need 10 classes at UMPI.  As I mentioned earlier, take the classes that can't be transferred in and the 4 that is required for the MAOL.  This way, you can do the MAOL for $2350 in one session.  You can then add the HAU MBA for $3K to finish off your Masters studies, having 2 RA Masters in the end for under 6K!

I was able to do one Sopia so far (health/fitness).  I'm trying one or two more, but not sure I'll have them done before the session starts in July.  But at least I'm down to 13 classes now.

Keep in mind with Sophia, if the course is just for a GEC requirement and you do not care about learning it in depth you can push through the course faster.