Which Big 3 gives letter grade for Mathematics ?

[Bonnie]

I'm terrible at math and I need as much advice as I can get.

If I were to sit a math class at my local CC, I would need to work my way past 7 math courses to reach Calculus! That's about 3 years if I count 1 math class per semester ( 2 semesters in 1 year ). It's ludicrous!

I want to complete a business degree in one of the Big 3 although at the moment I am unsure in which one I should lean towards. I will mainly be CLEP/DSST out of as many classes possible (These are all P/NP credits I assume. Or does one of the Big 3 offer grade letters for them as of now?).

I don't think P/NP looks very good in math courses considering that I want to apply to a program in a European country that probably would not accept P/NP but would want a definite letter grade. Their minimum requirement starts off at Algebra 2 I believe working its way up Trig, Pre-Cal and then Calc. I think Pre-Calc would suffice but .. I'd probably have a better chance at getting accepted with Calc.

I've read about ALEKS and Starterline etc, but it honestly just confuses me. Any help in direction would be genuinely appreciated.

[johnami]

I can only comment on ALEKS. I love it, I have been away from school for a long time, and ALEKS teaches as you go. If you already know an area, you do not have to spend time on it. If you have trouble with an area, you are given problems to solve until you "get it". Not as quick as testing out, but for learning as you go, it is hard to beat. Good Luck!

[cookderosa]

I'm terrible at math and I need as much advice as I can get.

If I were to sit a math class at my local CC, I would need to work my way past 7 math courses to reach Calculus! That's about 3 years if I count 1 math class per semester ( 2 semesters in 1 year ). It's ludicrous!

I want to complete a business degree in one of the Big 3 although at the moment I am unsure in which one I should lean towards. I will mainly be CLEP/DSST out of as many classes possible (These are all P/NP credits I assume. Or does one of the Big 3 offer grade letters for them as of now?).

I don't think P/NP looks very good in math courses considering that I want to apply to a program in a European country that probably would not accept P/NP but would want a definite letter grade. Their minimum requirement starts off at Algebra 2 I believe working its way up Trig, Pre-Cal and then Calc. I think Pre-Calc would suffice but .. I'd probably have a better chance at getting accepted with Calc.

I've read about ALEKS and Starterline etc, but it honestly just confuses me. Any help in direction would be genuinely appreciated.

Within the parameters you defined, the ONLY option is to take the math course from the college you plan to earn the degree from. Transfer grades are P/NP as well as CLEP, Straighterline, and ALEKS. If you take them at your CC, they will NOT come in as graded because they then become TRANSFER credits.

I might pry a bit and ask what the end goal is and see if the obstacles you've added to a degree could be worked-around in some other way.

FWIW, I took courses in my major with my eye on grad school too, and CLEPped the gen eds. I'm not saying you shouldn't (obviously) I'm just curious about where you're headed. Also, "probably" is never enough information, and whatever I say doesn't matter. You need to find out the written policy. (there is one)

[NAP]

The Big 3 have different math requirements for the BSBA. I believe COSC's is the lowest.

CLEPs and ALEKS are pass/fail at the Big 3.

(ALEKS may be a good way to learn the material and help you build up more quickly to the graded course.)

SL is pass/fail at TESC and EC, but COSC gives grades.

DSSTs are graded for 2-digit scores at EC and COSC, not TESC.

Like Jennifer said TESC does not transfer grades, which is typical for college policies. However EC (and COSC?) does transfer grades with all courses and certain exams and includes them on the official EC transcript. At EC, you will get 2 GPA's. The first is for all EC grades; the second is an overall GPA for all EC and transfer grades.

No matter which school you choose you will likely need to show all original transcripts to the grad school which will have a grade for the coursework.

[sanantone]

If the European university is anything like American colleges, then they will require transcripts from all colleges attended as NAP said. Even though a college might not transcribe a letter grade for transfer courses, your grades will still be shown on the transcript from the original school and used to calculate your GPA. Have you explored the option of studying and retaking the SAT, ACT, Compass, Accuplacer, or whatever test your school requires? Another option could be to CLEP or DSST out of college mathematics or college algebra and jump right into taking non-remedial courses at your CC.

[OE800_85]

I'm a little confused about this myself...

I took two courses at Athabasca a while ago, and sent the transcript to TESC. They gave me credit and assigned a letter grade. It is being counted towards my GPA, as well. Isn't that odd? Do you think credits from regionally accredited schools are granted letter grades at TESC? I'm curious how this happened to me. It was a delightful surprise, let me say.

That being said, Athabasca usually awards letter grades for their "Challenge for credit" option. It hovers around 300-400 per test, but if you really need a grade on your transcript, and are comfortable taking a proctored exam, that might be your best bet. Of course, look into the issue in detail with an advisor first.

[NAP]

Where are you seeing your grades and GPA at TESC? I've been looking around the TESC website and can not find a policy that says they will use transfer grades on the official transcript or GPA.

Yes, I think Ohio U exams are graded, too.

[cooperalex2004]

Where are you seeing your grades and GPA at TESC? I've been looking around the TESC website and can not find a policy that says they will use transfer grades on the official transcript or GPA.

Yes, I think Ohio U exams are graded, too.

Transfer letter grades from a traditional school show up on the unofficial transcript and evaluation, but once they mail out the official transcript with your diploma it only lists the courses. They will not list the letter grade and it will not count for the GPA at TESC. My ACE credits, TECEP exam, PLA course, CLEP, and DSST credits all show CR but the community college credits don't show a grade of any kind.

It will show up on the evaluation and on the unofficial transcript, but if it is anything like my CC credits, the official transcript only lists that the courses were completed (without grades or a GPA).

[OE800_85]

Interesting. Don't you guys find that quite strange? Why would they even bother to put the grade on the unofficial transcript, in that case?

[cookderosa]

Interesting. Don't you guys find that quite strange? Why would they even bother to put the grade on the unofficial transcript, in that case?

Maybe to assure that the transfer grades meet requirements (a GPA within a major, etc).