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COSC to TESC
#21
This thread is actually relevant to a discussion going on in the Walden TempoLearning thread.

When selecting a degree for your desired career, don't get stuck being too literal. You don't need a homeland security degree to work in homeland security; most people in the industry don't have one. You don't need an emergency management degree to work in emergency management. The degree checks a box; related experience is most important. I've come across many who think they need a forensic science degree to become a forensic scientist. The truth is that a chemistry degree would be the least limiting in this field. Toxicology positions require many chemistry courses that aren't in the average forensic science program.
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(12-03-2018, 12:50 PM)sanantone Wrote: This thread is actually relevant to a discussion going on in the Walden TempoLearning thread.

When selecting a degree for your desired career, don't get stuck being too literal. You don't need a homeland security degree to work in homeland security; most people in the industry don't have one. You don't need an emergency management degree to work in emergency management. The degree checks a box; related experience is most important. I've come across many who think they need a forensic science degree to become a forensic scientist. The truth is that a chemistry degree would be the least limiting in this field. Toxicology positions require many chemistry courses that aren't in the average forensic science program.

I agree with what you said.  The only ones who really push these HSEM degrees are FEMA and IAEM.  Degrees without experience are just snowflakes.  They are trying to get away from second career retired folks of first responders (experience) that were the ticket in.  Fire, military, police I think are still the better road (tested) and than add a degree.  

This Auburn University Certificate in Crisis Management is just continuing education.  Taking CE in your field is useful.
Non-Traditional Undergraduate College Credits (634 SH): *FTCC Noncourse Credits (156 SH) *DSST (78 SH) *CPL (64 SH) *JST Military/ACE (48 SH) *CBA (44 SH) *CLEP (42 SH) *FEMA IS (40 SH) *FEMA EM (38 SH) *ECE/UExcel (30 SH) *PLA Portfolio (28 SH) *EMI/ACE (19 SH) *TEEX/ACE (16 SH) *CWE (11 SH) *NFA/ACE (10 SH) *Kaplan/ACE (3 SH) *CPC (2 SH) *AICP/ACE (2 SH) *Sophia/ACE (2 SH) and *FRTI-UM/ACE (1 SH).
Non-Traditional Graduate College Credits (14 SH): AMU (6 SH); NFHS (5 SH); and JSU (3 SH).
 





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(12-03-2018, 01:16 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 12:50 PM)sanantone Wrote: This thread is actually relevant to a discussion going on in the Walden TempoLearning thread.

When selecting a degree for your desired career, don't get stuck being too literal. You don't need a homeland security degree to work in homeland security; most people in the industry don't have one. You don't need an emergency management degree to work in emergency management. The degree checks a box; related experience is most important. I've come across many who think they need a forensic science degree to become a forensic scientist. The truth is that a chemistry degree would be the least limiting in this field. Toxicology positions require many chemistry courses that aren't in the average forensic science program.

I agree with what you said.  The only ones who really push these HSEM degrees are FEMA and IAEM.  Degrees without experience are just snowflakes.  They are trying to get away from second career retired folks of first responders (experience) that were the ticket in.  Fire, military, police I think are still the better road (tested) and than add a degree.  

This Auburn University Certificate in Crisis Management is just continuing education.  Taking CE in your field is useful.

And, it's nice to have a related degree, but the title doesn't have to be an exact match. In another recent thread, I pointed out to someone that a sociology degree is just as valuable as a CJ degree for the U.S. Marshals.
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(12-03-2018, 01:36 PM)sanantone Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 01:16 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 12:50 PM)sanantone Wrote: This thread is actually relevant to a discussion going on in the Walden TempoLearning thread.

When selecting a degree for your desired career, don't get stuck being too literal. You don't need a homeland security degree to work in homeland security; most people in the industry don't have one. You don't need an emergency management degree to work in emergency management. The degree checks a box; related experience is most important. I've come across many who think they need a forensic science degree to become a forensic scientist. The truth is that a chemistry degree would be the least limiting in this field. Toxicology positions require many chemistry courses that aren't in the average forensic science program.

I agree with what you said.  The only ones who really push these HSEM degrees are FEMA and IAEM.  Degrees without experience are just snowflakes.  They are trying to get away from second career retired folks of first responders (experience) that were the ticket in.  Fire, military, police I think are still the better road (tested) and than add a degree.  

This Auburn University Certificate in Crisis Management is just continuing education.  Taking CE in your field is useful.

And, it's nice to have a related degree, but the title doesn't have to be an exact match. In another recent thread, I pointed out to someone that a sociology degree is just as valuable as a CJ degree for the U.S. Marshals.


The degree is the weakest indicator. 

The best Certified Emergency Manager (CEM) I have seen was a Nurse by education.  I have seen two nurses now, and they are/were both excellent.  That's why I like how the Army (line officers) do not care about what the degree is in.  Let everyone COMPETE, and over time the sick, lame, and lazy will be weeded out.
Non-Traditional Undergraduate College Credits (634 SH): *FTCC Noncourse Credits (156 SH) *DSST (78 SH) *CPL (64 SH) *JST Military/ACE (48 SH) *CBA (44 SH) *CLEP (42 SH) *FEMA IS (40 SH) *FEMA EM (38 SH) *ECE/UExcel (30 SH) *PLA Portfolio (28 SH) *EMI/ACE (19 SH) *TEEX/ACE (16 SH) *CWE (11 SH) *NFA/ACE (10 SH) *Kaplan/ACE (3 SH) *CPC (2 SH) *AICP/ACE (2 SH) *Sophia/ACE (2 SH) and *FRTI-UM/ACE (1 SH).
Non-Traditional Graduate College Credits (14 SH): AMU (6 SH); NFHS (5 SH); and JSU (3 SH).
 





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(12-03-2018, 01:50 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 01:36 PM)sanantone Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 01:16 PM)Life Long Learning Wrote:
(12-03-2018, 12:50 PM)sanantone Wrote: This thread is actually relevant to a discussion going on in the Walden TempoLearning thread.

When selecting a degree for your desired career, don't get stuck being too literal. You don't need a homeland security degree to work in homeland security; most people in the industry don't have one. You don't need an emergency management degree to work in emergency management. The degree checks a box; related experience is most important. I've come across many who think they need a forensic science degree to become a forensic scientist. The truth is that a chemistry degree would be the least limiting in this field. Toxicology positions require many chemistry courses that aren't in the average forensic science program.

I agree with what you said.  The only ones who really push these HSEM degrees are FEMA and IAEM.  Degrees without experience are just snowflakes.  They are trying to get away from second career retired folks of first responders (experience) that were the ticket in.  Fire, military, police I think are still the better road (tested) and than add a degree.  

This Auburn University Certificate in Crisis Management is just continuing education.  Taking CE in your field is useful.

And, it's nice to have a related degree, but the title doesn't have to be an exact match. In another recent thread, I pointed out to someone that a sociology degree is just as valuable as a CJ degree for the U.S. Marshals.


The degree is the weakest indicator. 

The best Certified Emergency Manager (CEM) I have seen was a Nurse by education.  I have seen two nurses now, and they are/were both excellent.  That's why I like how the Army (line officers) do not care about what the degree is in.  Let everyone COMPETE, and over time the sick, lame, and lazy will be weeded out.

Some might consider nursing to be a related degree along with CJ, emergency medicine, and business administration. I landed two interviews with FEMA for a GS-11 job because I had three years of doctoral courses in CJ, and they considered it related. I didn't get the jobs, but getting an interview with the federal government is a feat in itself.
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DSST
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TEEX
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(02-27-2014, 10:04 AM)J_T Wrote: Hey guys,

This might sound like a dumb question but could I use COSC's Cornerstone course as a free elective at TESC? 

Back to the original question - yes, it should work.  It will probably come in as FEL-199 or something like that, I've seen a lot of evals and they usually take those courses in free electives.
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(12-03-2018, 02:11 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(02-27-2014, 10:04 AM)J_T Wrote: Hey guys,

This might sound like a dumb question but could I use COSC's Cornerstone course as a free elective at TESC? 

Back to the original question - yes, it should work.  It will probably come in as FEL-199 or something like that, I've seen a lot of evals and they usually take those courses in free electives.

The question was asked and answered in 2014, so I hope the OP finished something by now.
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Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
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TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
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