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dcan Wrote:They might be interesting to look into actually. Is their $12K cost for a grad degree accurate? No "extras" tacked on to drive it way up? How about book costs? And what has the experience been like with them? I'm really curious since a lot of people go with them and they have some interesting grad programs.
Thanks!
I think it is a mixture. For undergrad degrees I know they have book grants. My Soldiers say they get their books included with their tuition and get them through the mail or are told if they will be ebooks, or free books from their online library.
For the Grad programs, you have to buy the books apart. I'm sure many programs have plenty of ebooks you can use from their online library free, but you will have to pay for others. I know the classes I've taken in history have all had about 4 or 5 books a piece but I usually find them on Amazon for about $3 or $4. Very cheap. Other programs will obviously have more expensive books.
As far as their fees, I am not aware of any other fees like enrollment fees other than Tuition, comprehensive exam and graduation fees, which aren't much. Might have to double check this though.
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Awesome. I just signed up for undergrad biz law at TESC and they want $238 for one freaking book!! Cheapest at Amazon I think is $130 shipped. International editions are $99 on tissue paper. Ouch.
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What's nice about amazon/ebay is as soon as course is over you can sell it right back. That's what I did for the books I did not want to keep.
Also check on the tesc book swap forum.
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dcan Wrote:Awesome. I just signed up for undergrad biz law at TESC and they want $238 for one freaking book!! Cheapest at Amazon I think is $130 shipped. International editions are $99 on tissue paper. Ouch.
Holy cow, $238 for a book!! I buy them as cheap as I can find them. It doesn't matter if they are advertised as "Very Used" or missing covers or outside damagaed, spine broken, etc. They'll still do the job.
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Why, oh, why aren't you taking the Business Law CLEP??????????
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Yenisei Wrote:Why, oh, why aren't you taking the Business Law CLEP??????????
Because they agree to cut the tuition down to the $250 DoD cap but require six courses in-residence in exchange. I get free college but have to take the classes. But still, six classes is a lot less than the 20+ I would have to take in any other school.
Plus, I'm fascinated by law and always wanted to study it but never really had an excuse. Besides, I plan to cram as much classwork as I can into the first month and then spend most of the rest of the course working on micro, macro, and accounting, just in time to take managerial accounting right after this law class. We'll see how it goes.
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01-16-2012, 01:17 AM
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CLEP101 Wrote:Holy cow, $238 for a book!! I buy them as cheap as I can find them. It doesn't matter if they are advertised as "Very Used" or missing covers or outside damagaed, spine broken, etc. They'll still do the job. 
Because of all the comments and threats that assignments change from version to version. The current versions are expensive as all hell. But this is only for actual classes I have to take. For the management CLEP my 50-cent textbook was written in 1992...
bricabrac Wrote:What's nice about amazon/ebay is as soon as course is over you can sell it right back. That's what I did for the books I did not want to keep.
Yeah, I will most likely do that. I bought it today from a reseller on Amazon, still in shrink wrap, for $125, with Amazon offering to buy it back for $99.
I actually did that with an old torn up copy of a book I had to have for my English class. It was a horrible book and I bought it used for about $45, the cover was torn up pretty bad but the inside was pristine with no marks or damage. I checked back last month and the same book was selling used for $110 at the cheapest. Turns out the price of textbooks spikes way up leading up to a semester. So I created my own bookstore account and threw it up for $70 (deep discount!!) and it sold in under 24 hours and I made a nearly 50% profit after Amazon's cut! :roflol:
It's sad though, that book was so useless I quit reading out of it after a couple of weeks. For a composition book it had a fair amount of egregious grammar and spelling errors. I feel bad for all the students who have to pay $100-150 for the things.
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I know their credit cost is $250 per. I do know that you can always get someone on the phone no problem. They are also a lot faster with everything and you can see on your student website which forms they have and what the current progress is. TESC was extremely slow and horrible to get any information out of. My opinion.
dcan Wrote:They might be interesting to look into actually. Is their $12K cost for a grad degree accurate? No "extras" tacked on to drive it way up? How about book costs? And what has the experience been like with them? I'm really curious since a lot of people go with them and they have some interesting grad programs.
Thanks!
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Oooh AMU! I'm taking Political Theory through them right now. I'm going to search around and see if there's an "AMU" thread here, and if not I'm going to start one. AMU is a best-kept-secret for those outside the military community looking for a Big 3 alternative.
-- Ok nevermind, I won't start a thread after all - I need to remember that this is a BIG 3 forum, as far as undergrad goes!! :-D However, I will mention that AMU seems to be a great school. Other than the for-profit status possibly affecting their reputation, I've loved my experience so far. I'm taking a supplemental class through them to finish out my BA in Political Science with TESC (if I even go that route, which I may not), and everything has gone quite smoothly. I registered for the class, and my free textbook automatically showed up like a week later. Every time I've needed to email AMU staff, someone responds usually the same day. Furthermore, tuition is only $250 per semester credit, which fits the TA cap, and they accept up to 90 transfer credits. Right now I'm leaning toward CSU-Global for my BS, but if I didn't care about name recognition/reputation, I'd SERIOUSLY consider AMU. Not to mention the sheer magnitude of their offered majors (Intelligence Studies, anyone?). Definitely worth looking into for an affordable master's!
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Just because the forum is focused on the Big 3 doesn't mean it can't be discussed. Besides, I'd like to expand the wiki to include AMU and WGU as well since they form a second tier that's almost as good. If you have details you can just add it to the wiki, just create an AMU page and have at it -- but be aware that I'll feel free to edit it too, but that's what wikis are for.
Or you can just send to me and I'll try to put something together. But I'd prefer if you just dump it on the wiki and we can polish it up later.
drewthedude Wrote:Intelligence Studies, anyone?
If I had the time and money, I would so go down that road. In less than a New York minute.
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